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TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#1: Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:56:37 PM

Soon it will no longer be illegal to rip C Ds or DV Ds for personal use.

The government is poised to announce the change as it accepts some of the recommendations of the wide-ranging Hargreaves Review of UK copyright law.

The review was intended to identify legislation that has been outdated by technological change.

As well as legalising "format shifting", it also suggested relaxing rules on parody and creating an agency to licence copyrighted content.

Business secretary Vince Cable is set to announce the official response to the Hargreaves Review at a press conference.

The government is widely expected to accept and pledge to implement many parts of the review. 'Not very good law'

Millions of people regularly convert movies on DV Ds and music on C Ds into a format that they can move around more easily, although most do not realise that it technically illegal.

"The review pointed out that if you have a situation where 90% of your population is doing something, then it's not really a very good law," said Simon Levine, head of the intellectual property and technology group at DLA Piper.

Legalising non-commercial copying for private use would bring the UK into line with many other nations and also meet the "reasonable expectations" of consumers, said the government.

The change would not make it legal to make copies and then share them online.

The legal anomaly preventing personal "ripping" was one of many identified by Professor Ian Hargreaves in the review as stifling innovation.

One technology caught out by the law was the Brennan JB 7 music player that lets owners copy their C Ds onto a hard drive that can be accessed from around a home.

The Advertising Standards Authority demanded that Brennan advise customers that using the JB 7 breaks the law. Copycat

Some legal experts believe that the acceptance of format shifting, combined with relaxations on manipulating works for the purpose of parody, paved the way for creative people to use content in different ways.

Susan Hall, a media specialist at law firm Cobbetts LLP, said the changes would give many artists "room to breathe" and remove the nervousness they might feel when using another work as inspiration.

One example that would be tolerated under the new regime is the Welsh rap song Newport State of Mind which was based on Jay Z and Alicia Keys's song Empire State of Mind.

Despite winning many fans on You Tube, the track was removed following a copyright claim by EMI. It is still available on other websites.

"There are all sorts of things that are genuine artistic works which are nevertheless based on parody, caricature and pastiche," said Ms Hall.

Updated laws on copyright could have a profound effect on the popular culture that can be created, albeit one that was hard to measure, she added.

One example is that of Doctor Who writers Russell T Davies and Steven Moffat who began their careers writing fan fiction about the time lord.

Such creative synergies could become more common in a more tolerant copyright climate, suggested Ms Hall.

"Rights holders are often very nervous about things like this but when you come down to it, it's the people that buy everything who also go to the trouble of writing and creating more," she said.

"It's about riffing off, not passing off."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14372698

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Tongpu Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Aug 3rd 2011 at 12:55:39 AM

Cool, and surprising, for once. Last I saw, it seemed laws were generally moving towards more and more restrictions.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Aug 3rd 2011 at 4:12:26 AM

Sweet, this is basically what I was bitching about in the Mircosoft thread.

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AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#4: Aug 3rd 2011 at 4:25:08 AM

Haha, nice, I'm a criminal. Not any more!

whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#5: Aug 3rd 2011 at 6:53:08 AM

Not bad for a bunch of Liberals eh? Maybe stuff like YGO:TAS will be ok now.

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abstractematics Since: May, 2011
#6: Aug 3rd 2011 at 7:06:07 AM

This is awesome, so long as everyone learns to adapt. Now if only US will move towards this direction.

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Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
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#7: Aug 3rd 2011 at 7:16:21 AM

I would love for the US to get on board, but I don't think our chances are very likely with the current Supreme Court.

However, my country appears to have somewhat less scorn for the UK than for other European countries, so there's hope that this could become an influencing factor to push us in the right direction eventually, at least.

edited 3rd Aug '11 7:16:38 AM by Karkadinn

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#8: Aug 3rd 2011 at 7:19:24 AM

[up] You say that but we here saw what the GOP/TP said about the NHS sad So I wouldn't hold my breathe if I was you.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
I changed accounts.
#9: Aug 3rd 2011 at 7:19:43 AM

Good luck, though. There's enough corporate capital in the US that stands against this to block it for decades. I'm pretty sure there's enough corporate capital that stands against this to buy the UK, so, I really doubt anything will happen in the near-future. Technology will really have to kill copyright before the law will catch up. It won't be pretty.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#10: Aug 3rd 2011 at 7:20:54 AM

@ whale before last:

That's what Liberalism is, and this is what it should do...

edited 3rd Aug '11 7:24:30 AM by Greenmantle

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SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#11: Aug 3rd 2011 at 6:18:58 PM

[up][up] Technology will.

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
Micromastophile
#12: Aug 3rd 2011 at 6:21:29 PM

Yay! Now the US and UK just need to ban region locking.

EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Aug 3rd 2011 at 6:41:02 PM

Hasn't this already been legal in the US since Sony got sued over it in the '70s?

Eric,

Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#14: Aug 3rd 2011 at 8:39:36 PM

[up]That made it legal to record TV programs(and radio programs), and make copies of your recording... Not to copy cassette tapes made by others(without their permission) or other forms of media...

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