Jurassic World

I was about to comment on Wu.

In the book, Wu is a bit full of himself and his methods, and denies his erros several times. He's gets to perform some heroic acts in some chapters, but he dies shortly after stroking his ego over the fact that his method achieved breeding dinosaurs.

In the first movie, Wu in dialog also comes across as overconfident in his methodology, but since he's an extra, he gets to leave the movie saving face.

Wu in JW is acutally surprisingly inine with book Wu in terms of his flaws (the overconfidence, his methods being risky, wanting a big paycheck).

It goes a step further by having him conspire to make weapons for a paycheck (as pointed out above, Wu was willing to mess with the DNA of the creatures further just to make them more docile and in line with public perception at the time, which is in the opposite direction of the movie Wu). But the desisions are kinda born out of the shared character flaws (that are kinda hinted at in the talk with Malcolm about the cloning procedure).

edited 21st Jun '18 11:01:39 AM by MrSeyker

Man, can you imagine how much money In Gen had to pay Zara's family after the latter sued the former?

edited 21st Jun '18 1:56:26 PM by GamerManDrew

Presumably the same amount as they had to pay any other dead visitor or employee.

Heck, maybe less depending on what her work contract stipulated.

edited 21st Jun '18 1:57:22 PM by Ghilz

Yeah but Zara was engaged which means both her family and her fiancee's family payed a butt load of money for all the wedding stuff so in edition to sueing In Gen for Zara's death, they may have also sued In Gen for making all that money that they and Zara's fiancee's family payed for the wedding stuff go to waste. Plus also, Zara's fiancee probably wanted revenge on In Gen for obvious reasons and getting In Gen to pay a butt load of money is a good way of getting revenge.

edited 21st Jun '18 2:07:34 PM by GamerManDrew

In the original Jurassic Park, four or five people were killed, all of them In Gen employees who may very well have signed contracts about not suing in the event of dinosaur related injury. I can totally buy that that wouldn't be enough to deter them from going ahead with a dino theme park.

But Jurassic World upping it to dozens of people killed, many of them tourists? The lawsuit would be enormous, especially when it's revealed a) In Gen specifically designed the Indominus to be more deadly towards humans, b) that in trying to stop the rampaging predator, In Gen's owner accidentally set even more rampaging predators loose on the park goers, and c) In Gen personnel then deliberately released even more rampaging predators . . . twice.

And beyond civil penalties, there'd likely be demands for new government regulations to keep something like this from happening again (though, I'll admit, I don't know enough about Costa Rica's government to predict how that would pan out).

And with the deaths of so many dinosaurs, plus other property destroyed, and the PR nightmare . . . maybe the company survives, but I don't see them being able to reopen the park again.

edited 21st Jun '18 3:01:14 PM by RavenWilder

Pretty sure nothing is going to happen to InGen. All the blame is going to be shifted to Marsani.

edited 21st Jun '18 3:13:35 PM by MrSeyker

There's nothing they can do to Masrani because he's dead

edited 21st Jun '18 3:33:41 PM by GamerManDrew

Dead men can't defend themselves. He is nominally responsible for what happened and can be scapegoated for everything.

Yeah but Zara was engaged which means both her family and her fiancee's family payed a butt load of money for all the wedding stuff so in edition to sueing In Gen for Zara's death, they may have also sued In Gen for making all that money that they and Zara's fiancee's family payed for the wedding stuff go to waste. Plus also, Zara's fiancee probably wanted revenge on In Gen for obvious reasons and getting In Gen to pay a butt load of money is a good way of getting revenge.

None of that really matters? Being engaged doesn't make a wrongful death more pressing. Or award more money. The only factor that'd probably matter legally is if Zara had kids she's leaving behind. Heck, pretty sure that the fact that they are only engaged and not actually married means the husband's family has no grounds to sue. At most the husband himself would be rolled into Zara's own family.

And seeing as lots of people killed were tourists, and many of them were families, some likely WERE kids, I don't see Zara's death being more financially impacting than kids who lost both parents to a dino or a mom who had her kid snatched by a flying dino.

So I re-iterate my answer "Presumably the same amount as they had to pay any other dead visitor or employee."

Not only that, but the I-Rex is super easy to cover up, so that leaves the flying dinosaurs. Who crashed into the aviary? Masrani. Who isn't a qualified helicopter pilot and decided to pilot anyway without his instructor.

The raptor victims are mostly mercenaries who probably have a clause in their contract that lets Ingen not report the specific cause of death. The other employees killed by the I-Rex can just be blamed on the flying Dinosaurs.

edited 21st Jun '18 4:04:45 PM by Ghilz

There was a deleted scene in Lost World where the families of Arnold, Gennero, and Muldoon sued InGen for millions

It was deleted along with the scene where Ludlow wrested control from Hammond because it made Ludlow have too much of a point

Notably InGen covered up the cause of the deaths so that probsbly contributed

The scene of the board meeting in TLW wasn't removed because it gave Ludlow a valid point, it was removed because it was a long, dull scene that made an already too long movie even longer (and the main points of the scene were mentioned explicitely or alluded to in casual conversation in other scenes later in the film).

The other scene removed for time was Tembo's introduction, which while a good exposition of the type of person Roland was, it was also unnecesarily long and dragged the first act.

Yeah, I was going to point out that in another post.

InGen itself can't be held acountable for anything, because not only was their work secret while under contract with Marsani (whose' company will take the burnt of the blame), they successfully managed to recover pretty much all evidence leading to Indominus, which was killed leaving no body behind, and never actually interacted with any public outside of Zach and Gray, only with park employees that probably had a ton of clauses in their contracts.

edited 21st Jun '18 4:51:22 PM by MrSeyker

Heh, this is awesome.

edited 21st Jun '18 5:30:16 PM by Tuckerscreator

Spoilers from Fallen Kingdom

What the fuck happened to Site B?! As far as I knew, Site B was still standing in the supplementary material for Jurassic World.

Also, Lockwood should've been called Atherton.

It does make me wonder how Jurassic World line would look without nostalgia glasses.

Apparently all the dinosaurs from Site B were relocated to Jurassic World. Which really backfired when the island exploded

Going to see Fallen Kingdom Tomorrow.

It's out?

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Huh, so it is. 51% on Rotten Tomatoes, so roughly 50/50 odds on liking the movie. That's not bad. Roughly on par with The Lost World's 53% and Jurassic Park III's 50%.

Good to know. I can temper my expectations going in.

I honestly thought both of those would be significantly lower.

It's weird to me that Lost World is even three percent higher

For contrast, Jurassic Park is at 92% and Jurassic World's sitting at 71%.

What criticisms has Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom received?

Having the exact same plot as The Lost World: Jurassic Park is a criticism I;ve read about

Is Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom at least performing well at the box office?

$15.3M ,it's budget was according to Google 170 million USD

It's flopping hard