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RedViking Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jul 19th 2011 at 9:46:16 AM

According to the description, this trope is supposed to be be about marketing claims that are true, "but misleading in that the claims it makes are actually insignificant (they apply to all products in that category, as in the page image, or just have no bearing on the product's quality at all) or negative (somewhat rarer), repackaged to seem positive and desirable."

While I do think there's a trope here, I think a rename is warranted. It just strikes me as unnecessarily negative and I can easily see people misuse this.

MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#2: Jul 19th 2011 at 9:53:12 AM

Yeah, the title doesn't really actually demonstrate the trope. I can't think of any good trope names right now, would Asbestos-Free Cereal work?

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#3: Jul 19th 2011 at 10:02:24 AM

Wow that is one of the most negative titles on the wiki.

IMHO, we should avoid giving this one a name that is restricted to a specific product. This is about Trivial Marketing Claims.

Like, for example, Internet advertisements that warn you "your computer is broadcasting your IP address!" Which is baloney because your IP address is needed to surf the Web in the first place.

Hey, even replacing "Crap" with "Baloney" would be an improvement — Made With Organic Baloney?

edited 19th Jul '11 10:06:27 AM by Stratadrake

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#5: Jul 19th 2011 at 10:05:47 AM

Added a thought to previous post.

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#8: Jul 19th 2011 at 10:21:33 AM

My favorite examples are Sugar Free Lard and Fat Free Sugar (which in my experience is what many real-life examples boil down to), but Asbestos-Free Cereal might be clearer.

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CharlieBrown Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Jul 19th 2011 at 10:32:37 AM

Another vote for Asbestos Free Cereal here. Catchy.

The original title seems to be a play on one of The Rock's old catchphrases, which was calling another Wrestler a "steaming, stinking pile of Grade-A monkey crap." It was pretty funny back in the late 90's but has faded from public consciousness.

MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#11: Jul 19th 2011 at 10:45:37 AM

I've made Asbestos-Free Cereal into a redirect. Should we get a crowner up? Or too soon?

edited 19th Jul '11 10:45:47 AM by MangaManiac

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Jul 19th 2011 at 11:07:49 AM

Asbestos Free Cereal is a great name. Gets the point across quickly without being excessively negative.

MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Jul 19th 2011 at 11:11:08 AM

By the way, we need to order the examples a bit more. There's actual advertisements, as well as lampshade hangings from Webcomics and the like.

RedViking Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Jul 19th 2011 at 12:32:12 PM

I don't think it's too soon for a crowner. Let's go ahead and get one set up.

MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#15: Jul 19th 2011 at 12:39:57 PM

Single Prop (rename or not rename)?

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#16: Jul 19th 2011 at 12:42:26 PM

I say just switch the text into the new redirect and move on.

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#17: Jul 19th 2011 at 12:46:07 PM

Yeah there is no defending this one... And we have too many active topics as it is. No one speaks up by the end of the day just do it IMO.

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#19: Jul 19th 2011 at 1:11:11 PM

Okay, it's been moved. Could a mod please move the previous discussion page to the new title?

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#20: Jul 19th 2011 at 1:13:32 PM

Moved discussion. Locking. Thanks, everyone.

edited 19th Jul '11 1:13:54 PM by Fighteer

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