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LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#51: Sep 6th 2011 at 11:03:51 AM

Possible endgame scenario: The Cartels take out Gus. Walt takes over, Walt f's everything up, the Cartels take out Walt.

On another topic, I'm getting sick of people elsewhere taking the "Walt becomes Scarface" line as a step-by-step set in stone plan. This is in reference to the show being called "Mr. Chips turns into Scarface." Thing is, Walt was never really Mr. Chips to begin with (I read the book and saw the movie). So just because Vince Gilligan says "Chips to Scarface," I don't think we're going to see Walt in a swimming pool-sized bathtub any time soon.

LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#52: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:48:37 AM

Well, maybe the Cartels will hold off on killing Gus for a while. That guy has titanium balls the size of watermelons.

I just realized something. All three of Jesse's friends, despite being insignificant in and of themselves, have influenced Walt's business/the plot in very major ways.

  • Skinny Pete introduced Jesse to Tuco. Which led to the unpleasantness with Tuco and "Heisenberg" becoming the #1 target of the Cartels.
  • Badger's run-in with the police led Walt to Saul Goodman and eventually Gus.
  • Combo's death is, ironically, the thing that both formed and ruined Walt's working relationship with Gus. And there's the RV he stole.

Is there a trope for this? "Insignificant character moves plot in significant way."

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#53: Sep 13th 2011 at 5:59:09 AM

The friendship is over.sad

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Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#54: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:52:38 PM

Yeah, that was some falling out, and when Jesse was asking for help no less.

Then again, you can't expect anything else from Walt, King of Assholes.

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RexBeavers Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#55: Sep 15th 2011 at 2:25:46 AM

I was cheering so hard for Jesse to beat him down. I have grown to hate Walt, which I think is the point. He's such an idiot. He's now lost the one person who was interested in keeping him alive.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#56: Sep 18th 2011 at 9:09:15 PM

I'm glad Walt had a Heel Realization. Too bad it's too late now that Jesse and Mike and Gus are gonna be bros.

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LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#57: Sep 18th 2011 at 11:13:22 PM

Gus is a Badass, but did he assume that throwing up the poison would be completely effective?

Even with last week's episode, I had a feeling that Walt and Jesse's relationship wouldn't end so easily (yeah, really!). The events in Mexico + Walt's remorse could force the two to try to work things out especially if Mike and Gus succumb.

The universe is telling Ted Beneke to pay back his taxes. At the same time it's telling Skyler that all of the men in her life are completely hopeless.

edited 18th Sep '11 11:13:39 PM by LedWalrus

occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#58: Sep 19th 2011 at 1:59:33 PM

[up] I think he assumed it was his only course of action....he did not want to live and be a pawn of the cartel. Of course we'll have to see what happens now.

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LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#59: Sep 19th 2011 at 2:45:51 PM

[up] In the T Vw/oPity forum, they mentioned that those things that Gus ingested before the meeting were pellets of activated charcoal. So I suppose he did assume he would survive.

This show didn't ruin bells for me, like it did many others. It did however, ruin Zafiro Anejo (I can't do tildes on this keyboard) tequila, since my dad loves that stuff.

On the B-plot: I wish people (in-universe) would give Saul more respect. He may be a sleazeball, but he's a competent sleazeball. After all, he was absolutely right that the inheritance ploy would bite them in the ass. Skyler really had no reason to interfere in the money laundering system Saul set up other than to appease her own control-freak tendencies.

Unfired Chekhov's Guns: The ricin (of course), Walt's .38 and Saul's "off the grid" contingency plan.

RexBeavers Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#60: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:07:47 AM

Gus gets more and more bad ass. I'm a bit split on how I feel about him, though. His slaying of Victor was outright psychotic it seems like it could have been avoided. It's also still possible that he ordered the hit on Tomas. I really hope they go back and shed more light on exactly what happened with Tomas' death. The whole thing precipitated a lot of fallout between Walt and Gus and we have no way to be 100% sure that Tomas was shot by Gus' men.

Any thoughts on what Gus was up to in Chile?

KixMcGiggles Since: Dec, 1969
#61: Sep 20th 2011 at 2:55:37 PM

Either way the show is extremely exciting. I can't wait to get my tv and internet in my new house. Does anyone have any preferences on dish tv or direc tv?

Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#62: Sep 25th 2011 at 8:06:21 PM

Uh, uh, HOLY FUCKING GODDAMN SHIT.

Wham Episode, much? SERIOUSLY OH MY GOD

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#63: Sep 25th 2011 at 8:49:23 PM

Fuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkkk!!!!!! My heart can't take these end of season episodes!

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#64: Sep 25th 2011 at 8:53:48 PM

Yeah, a Breaking Bad season pretty much starts out loud, goes quiet, and then all of a sudden HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SOUND IN MY EARS I CAN'T TAKE THE SUSPENSE

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#65: Sep 25th 2011 at 9:19:53 PM

wild mass guessWalt is going to use the last of the money to get the rest of his family out and go on the offensive. Take everyone out with science.wild mass guess

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#66: Sep 25th 2011 at 9:32:23 PM

That's what I think the trailer afterwards was showing. Walt laughing was him going apeshit.

I'm sorry, Gus. But you've made Walt snap. And when Walt snaps, people die.

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#67: Sep 25th 2011 at 10:12:41 PM

He is the danger!

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LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#68: Sep 25th 2011 at 11:10:40 PM

Walt has a Light Yagami moment.

As for Ted's death it didn't seem fitting for me. It was a cop out.

edited 25th Sep '11 11:10:49 PM by LedWalrus

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#70: Sep 26th 2011 at 10:03:30 AM

You know, I really hope we see the return of the assertive Season 2-Season 3 Walt. The White Collar Punch Clock Villainy really softened him up, and I want him to become the Danger. You know, like was advertised.

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LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#71: Sep 26th 2011 at 10:28:48 AM

Did anyone notice that Walt's "death cough" has made a comeback?

jjmoses Since: Jan, 2001
#72: Sep 26th 2011 at 5:00:03 PM

That... may have been the most terrifying end of a television show I've ever seen.

edited 26th Sep '11 5:00:12 PM by jjmoses

Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#73: Sep 26th 2011 at 6:20:09 PM

I'll be honest, I'm not shocked that we're all in agreement as to the Holy Shit Quotient of that episode. It was a Perfect Storm building up for the past few episodes.

And man was the storm violent.

BTW, Emmys? Bryan Cranston called.

edited 26th Sep '11 6:28:38 PM by Pyroninja42

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#74: Sep 26th 2011 at 6:39:27 PM

[up]x7 Ted's death was a cop out, which is why I hope he survive long enough to make things complicated but not unsolvable. His fingers twitched, hopefully that means something.

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#75: Sep 26th 2011 at 7:19:11 PM

I couldn't help but laugh when Ted went and killed himself. Idiot. But not a laughter any where near...

THE WALT LAUGHTER. OH GOD, THE LAUGHTER.

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