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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#8951: Aug 30th 2014 at 3:39:55 PM

But spiders are arachnids. They eat bugs. If Shino became a drider, none of his swarm would trust him anymore.

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#8952: Aug 30th 2014 at 3:50:53 PM

Yeah, bugger that.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#8953: Aug 30th 2014 at 4:00:53 PM

Of course they would. Because they know it's Shino, and Shino is the one who endures... hunger, in this case, but he endures it nonetheless.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#8954: Aug 30th 2014 at 4:04:44 PM

[up][up][up]What are they going to do, leave? Oh no, he doesn't have a million little insects constantly burrowing through his flesh, however will he manage. Maybe his badass spider-centaur powers will be some comfort.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8955: Aug 30th 2014 at 4:19:33 PM

Shino's Bugs: "Sorry man, but you've changed."

Shino: "I understand. Why, you may ask? Because I ate your friends. As I am going to eat you."

Shino's Hippy Bugs: "Aww, man, that's a buzz killer."

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#8956: Aug 31st 2014 at 1:20:16 AM

Chapter 42 of Wait, Did That Happen Before? has finally, finally been finished. Seriously, this thing took forever compared to most of my chapters. It didn't help that I forgot to save it the first time through and had to rewrite it almost from scratch. Anyways, here it is.

Chapter 42: Green Interrupt

As Ryouga finished the final handseal for the Hiriashin no Jutsu, he felt the teleportation take effect. And suddenly he could see Tora, claws extended, lashing out toward an unaware Naruto. Ryouga whipped his hands together into the first handseal for the Kawarimi no Jutsu before realizing there wouldn't be time to use the handseals for the technique. Clenching his hands into fists, Ryouga drew them back, even as he forced his chakra through the replacement technique through sheer force of will. And then, with a loud poof and a large burst of smoke, Naruto was safely deposited where Ryouga had initially landed and Ryouga was the one beneath Tora's descending claws.

CRACK!

With a vicious uppercut to the monstrous cat's center toe, Ryouga brought the slash to a halt. Not giving the cat any time to react, he rushed toward the next closest limb, lashing out with a haymaker. And then to the next limb. And then to the next.

0o0o0

Having located his prey, despite still not being able to see or hear thanks to Chamo's flash bang, a very much enraged Tora spread his claws on his left foreleg and swiped. But instead of the sensation of his claws sinking into a small child that he'd expected, a sudden pain spiked through his foot. With a yelp of surprise, Tora withdrew his paw, now sporting a broken toe.

The scent before him had abruptly changed. Before the massive cat had time to make sense of what that meant, a second pain stabbed its way into his right foreleg just behind the paw, and Tora jerked it from the ground in pain as well. Raising himself to his hind legs, Tora made an awkward hop backwards, blinking furiously in a futile attempt to accelerate the recovery of his vision. Despite his efforts, Tora still wasn't able to spot more than a blur of motion before one of his hind legs was kicked out from under him. The cat suddenly found himself precariously balanced on one leg before that too was bashed aside. With a crash, Tora landed in a heap. Right on top of his attacker.

Biting pain in his side quickly informed the gargantuan cat that this was not somewhere he wanted to be, and he promptly rolled away, swiping blindly at where he'd just been laying with his tail. A painful pinch at the end informed him that something had just grabbed it. Or perhaps bitten down on it. Deciding to repay the favor, Tora spun around and pinned whatever it was that was on his tail with his right paw, before sinking his teeth into... his own tail and a log. Recoiling in pain, Tora landed back on his feet before letting out a yowl of pain and jerking his left foreleg from the ground as the nerves in his foot reminded him that he had a broken toe. It was at this point that Tora began to consider fleeing from the scene like a terrified kitten.

...Er, I mean tactically retreating until he could see again. Don't look at me like that. I'm the narrator, you can't interact with me. Seriously, stop it, you're ruining the story. Okay, fine, be that way, Tora. Let's see how you like this.

Suddenly, Tora's world exploded into pain, and the gigantic cat let out a howl of agony. Dimly, he felt himself landing on something, but it was muted, a vague sensation hidden behind the veil of pain that had suddenly engulfed his torso. Something told Tora he should be trying to run, and the cat attempted to struggle to his feet, only for a second burst of pain to spike through him. Again, the cat tried to rise to his feet. Unfortunately, his limbs apparently no longer felt the need to listen to him, and Tora could do little more than lie senseless on the ground as spasms of agony ran through him. Suddenly, the pain in his side spiked again, and his senses began to return to him. Slowly, he became aware of someone talking to him, and his vision began to clear. Wait... “You... look familiar...”

0o0o0

Sakura watched in horror as Naruto failed to comprehend her warning. And then Ryouga was there, a large, loud burst of smoke signifying that he'd just performed a rather chakra excessive replacement with Naruto. And Sakura watched as her sensei furiously tore into the monster cat that had once been Tora.

At one point, Tora fell on him, and Sakura momentarily thought that the fight had been brought to an end, but the cat abruptly rolled away like it had landed on a massive tack, and Ryouga continued attacking it unhindered.

And then a massive blast of green light sent the gargantuan cat sprawling.

“Whoa,” yelped Ryouga, having just barely avoided being caught in the blast himself. Taking a step back, he suddenly looked off to his side. Following his gaze, Sakura's eyes widened in horror.

From where the blast had originated stood the green ranger, clutching a short black and green dagger with yellow runes running along the blade. Judging by the way he was holding it, the blast had originated from the dagger, or perhaps been channeled through it. Lowering the blade to his side, the Green Ranger began walking toward the downed monster cat. “Hello Tora,” he said in his distorted voice.

Instead of responding, the cat began struggling to his feet. Faster than Sakura's eyes could track, the Green Ranger whipped the dagger toward the cat, and a second blast of green light sent the cat crashing back to the ground. This time, he didn't get back up.

“Now now, none of that.” Once more lowering the dagger, the Green Ranger continued walking towards the cat, fastening his weapon to his belt as he walked. Ignoring the confused Ryouga, the evil power ranger gestured toward the downed monster cat. “You know, my master tells me it's been quite some time since anyone was stupid enough to try feeding on her magical energy. And then you come along. Not only do you flee in battle against her direct orders, but instead of leaving things be, you start tapping into her powers whenever you feel like killing something.” The ranger's hands abruptly clenched into fists, and he slammed a kick into the injured monster-cat's side. “Not a smart move, kitty.”

From the corner of her eye, Sakura could see Naruto and Negi watching the whole thing as Negi hovered on his staff. Initially, the small boy had looked overjoyed, but now he mostly looked conflicted. What's the matter? Finally realizing he's not one of the Power Rangers you were sent to spy on? However, that line of thought was interrupted as Tora began to stir once more.

“You... You look familiar...” grunted the cat.

“I rather expect I should,” replied the Green Ranger. “After all, I'm wearing the same style costume as the people you were supposed to eliminate. Instead of running away like a cowardly mouse.”

“Why...” Tora cut off to groan, then tried again. “Why are you here?”

“Were you not listening?” asked the Green Ranger incredulously. “I'm here because you, a simple house cat gifted with power for the sake of defeating the Power Rangers, decided instead to steal magical power from Rita Repulsa, the greatest conqueror this planet has seen in ten thousand years!”

At that, Negi looked downright alarmed. Ryouga and Naruto continued to look confused.

“So you're here to kill me?” asked the monster cat.

“Actually,” said the Green Ranger, as he raised his empty hand, “I'm here to take back that which was never yours to begin with.” Abruptly, a small clay pot materialized in the evil Power Ranger's hand. “After I've gotten that, you can go back to your life as the Fire Daimyo's pet for all I care.” Tora's eyes widened in desperation. And the giant cat MOVED.

For all of a few feet before collapsing back to the ground and letting out a strangled squeaking noise.

“You aren't going anywhere in your condition,” muttered the Green Ranger as he lifted the lid off the pot. “Why do you think I blasted you before I started talking?”

The monstrous cat suddenly started convulsing, and something came out of him, leaving the original Tora twitching on the ground. As the thing flew into the pot, the Green Ranger replaced the lid, and the pot vanished just as suddenly as it had appeared.

Ryouga looked down at Tora, then back at the Green Ranger. “So, uh, thanks for the help?” said Ryouga, though he made it sound like a question than a legitimate expression of gratitude.

“Don't thank me,” replied the Green Ranger casually. “I wasn't here to save you, I was here to stop a thief at the request of my master. And at the request of my master, I'm also about to kill one of your genin.”

Before he'd even finished the word genin, the Green Ranger had already started rushing her. By the time Sakura had comprehended what happened, the green-clad villain had closed over half the distance between them. Then, just before he reached her, the Green Ranger jerked, as if struck by an invisible blow, and he slid to the side. This was just enough of a delay for Ryouga to reach him, and the jounin tackled him to the ground from behind.

0o0o0

Naruto gaped in surprise, eyes locked on Negi's outstretched hand, and Negi inwardly cursed. But not outwardly. Gentlemen had to hold themselves to certain standards, after all.

Before Naruto could ask how he'd attacked the assassin from that distance, or how he was hovering in midair, or what 'flans exarmatio' meant, Negi dropped to the ground and turned to his orange-clad teammate. “Quick, make a bunch of shadow clones and transform one into Sakura, then replace her with it!”

“Uh, right!” Naruto said, and put word to deed. Before the smoke from the shadow clones had cleared, one of the dozen shadow clones was already going through the handseals for the transformation technique.

Hopefully that will distract Naruto enough that by the time this is over, he'll have forgotten about me flying or casting spells. I hate to admit it, but it's times like these that I'm glad Naruto's not the sharpest kunai in the set.

“Henge no Jutsu!” yelled Naruto, and in a second puff of smoke, it turned into Sakura.

And it's times like these that I wish Naruto didn't yell out every technique he performs as he does them, thought Negi. Hopefully the Green Power Ranger was too occupied to notice. However, the deed was done, and Naruto was already going through the handseals for the replacement technique.

“Kawarimi no Jutsu!”

And Sakura was back.

“Quick, transform into Naruto,” commanded Negi.

“Uh, right,” said Sakura. “Henge no Jutsu!”

Negi didn't facepalm, as that would not be the gentlemanly thing to do. “Okay Narutos, make a defensive circle around us. Sakura, stay close. We'll keep that fake Power Ranger from catching you.”

“Wait!” said Chamo. “Naruto, keep one of the clones in the circle. Sakura, Naruto, join the clones, but keep to the back of the circle. If that green guy comes after us, pretend to be part of the guard, but try to slip away when you get the chance. Bro, get a delayed sp-... uh... get ready to swap with one of the clones?”

Negi promptly transformed into Naruto.

0o0o0

Ryouga stifled a grunt of pain as his green-clad opponent slipped another blow through his defenses. The jounin had quickly discovered that the Green Ranger could strike with enough force to hurt him, despite his iron-like constitution. Furthermore, trying to hit his opponent was like trying to hit Ranma. The guy moved with a speed he hadn't seen from anyone else since arriving in the elemental nations and could casually dodge attacks even while staying close enough to land his own.

Unlike Ranma, however, the Green Ranger seemed to like to keep the pressure on. The entire fight had been a furious exchange of blows, interspersed with the occasional grappling match, and Ryouga hadn't even had time to ditch his backpack. But that was fine. If nothing else, Hibiki Ryouga wouldn't back down from a slugging match. With a snarl, Ryouga surged forward, swinging a haymaker at his opponent's helmet. The Green Ranger dodged both the haymaker, and Ryouga reversed it into an elbow strike. However, the ranger spun out of the way, using his momentum to drive a hook to Ryouga's face. And then Ryouga saw his opening.

As the hook slammed home, the Green Ranger stopped, just for an instant. And Ryouga used that instant to slam his knee to the ranger's stomach. The blow seemed to stun the evil Power Ranger, and Ryouga was certain he heard a cry of pain. Not missing his chance, Ryouga swiftly grabbed him by the helmet and slammed that into his knee as well. Unfortunately, he'd forgotten to take account of the fact that the Green Ranger was, in fact, wearing a helmet, and the blow did little damage. Instead, it gave the ranger time to recover, and he slammed a palm strike into Ryouga's stomach. And suddenly, Ryouga felt like someone had filled his innards with fire.

Gasping in pain, Ryouga dropped to his knees and began dry-heaving. The Green Ranger immediately retreated backwards, sinking to his knees and clutching his stomach in pain. What the hell is this? thought the Green Ranger incredulously. The Power Rangers can't do crap against me, but some random ninja can bring me to my knees in one hit?! Unbeknownst to him, Ryouga was having rather similar thoughts.

What the hell is wrong with me? I'm so pathetic. I'm supposed to be a jounin of Konoha, the strongest of the hidden villages, and I can't even stop some random lunatic sent to kill a genin. And not just any genin, one of my genin. I'm failing them. Sakura is going to die. And probably Naruto and Negi, too. And there's nothing I can do to stop it. At this rate, I'm probably not even going to live long enough to see this asshole do it.

“Fuck this,” growled the Green Ranger, reaching for his dagger. Suddenly, Ryouga sat up, his hands cupped together, a green-blue glow burning in the center of them.

“SHISHI HOKODAN!”

“OH YOU PIECE OF SHI-” In a blast of viridian light, the Green Ranger was sent flying into the forest.

0o0o0

Sakura gasped in surprise. Holy crap! He did it! How the hell did that even happen? However, before the girl had time to celebrate not dying at the hands of what had formerly appeared to be an implacable foe, Ryouga collapsed to the ground, spasmed, and once again began dry-heaving. “SENSEI!”

0o0o0

“-IIIIIIIIT!” With a crash, the Green Ranger landed, deep in the woods, bouncing off the ground twice before coming to an abrupt stop as he slammed into a tree. “Ow,” said the Green Ranger flatly, before trying to sit up. “Damn rocks,” he muttered. “Can't even crash-land in the middle of a forest after being blasted by some sort of knockoff of my own attack without...” The Green Ranger paused as he took sight of what he'd landed on. “No way. It can't possibly be this easy.” But it was. And so, it was with great surprise that the Green Ranger picked up Sakura's morpher.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8957: Sep 14th 2014 at 2:10:30 PM

So, in order to nuke Kage Bunshin training from any of my stories, I have come up with the following common factor:

Kage Bunshin don't help you train your chakra in any way, shape or form because they're all still you and thus even if you have a hundred working on it, they'll all make the exact same mistakes at the exact same time and thus it's not actually helping any and in fact makes things worse because the repetition helps bad habits settle in.

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moberemk Dread Lord from Canada Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#8958: Sep 14th 2014 at 4:57:51 PM

That's not bad logic, although couldn't you still instruct them to just approach a problem from different directions? Or focus on different aspects of a skill, say, or even each study entirely different skills altogether.

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#8959: Sep 14th 2014 at 5:47:59 PM

You could also just have it not come up. Naruto isn't smart enough to come up with it on his own, and nobody else can really spam clones with enough chakra to use them for training, and this wouldn't develop it as part of their training regimen.

But yeah, the shadow clone training is completely game breaking.

edited 14th Sep '14 5:49:27 PM by Hyp3rB14d3

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8960: Sep 14th 2014 at 6:16:06 PM

[up]Problem is, while Original Flavor Naruto isn't smart enough to come up with it, Expendable Heroes!Naruto has loads of people around him who are smart enough to figure it out and they're extremely interested in keeping him at his best at all times. Danzo's not going to let his prized PARIAH be anything less than the best he can be.

Other stories I write, such as Raijin or KNSY, don't have this issue because Naruto flat out can't use it in the former, and hasn't learned in the latter and nobody's going to teach her the technique because they fear she might overdo it and give herself an aneurysm with a thousand clones' feedback. A Big Happy Uzumaki Family Naruto lives in a world of people who aren't brain-dead dumb, and while he still is about as bright as someone's left shoe, painted in matte black, Karin is not, and would likely ask Jiraiya about the Kage Bunshin (if only because she's wondering about their less than intended uses).

[up][up]In this regard, you could maybe double or triple the speed of your training by learning multiple things at the same time, but not increase your learning speed of one single thing thousandfold. Approaching at different angles would work if Naruto was capable of micromanaging his clones, but he isn't, they're autonomous and I seriously don't think Naruto would have good micro skills.

edited 14th Sep '14 6:18:03 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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dnc Troll Logician Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#8961: Sep 14th 2014 at 7:13:59 PM

Depends on whether or not the technique can work like an assembly line, really. Imagine the finished technique is a car, then each Naruto will be working on the tires, the rims, the frame, the seats, etc. If it's something like that, I could imagine the shadow clones increasing learning speed @ 100% per.

To give an example, let's go with a technique that isn't actually ninjutsu, the shuriken twice where you hit the first shuriken you threw with another one, knocking it off path into a blindspot. (Valley of the End Sasuke does this when Naruto hid behind a boulder.)

One clone could learn how to jump, assuming the tehcnique need you in the air, one clone could practice throwing kunai when he's holding two (for the first kunai) and one clone could pratice hitting a small target at a given timing (to simulate how you'd have to throw to hit a moving kunai you threw earlier). In the end, it's all one technique, but it can be broken down into parts to be learned separately.

Edit: And there's a easy way to keep the training from being broken, mental fatigue. Just make it so that Naruto needs to sleep to make up for the fact that he was basically awake for 3x normal. If he made 3 clones and trained for 8 hours (or 6 clones for 4 hours, or 12 for 2 hours, etc.) make it so that he has to sleep for 8 hours afterwards, since his brain basically thinks he stayed awake for an entire day. That way, not matter how many clones he makes, he's still capped @ 3x normal learning speed. (Training is instant, but you can only sleep for 24 hours in a day.)

edited 14th Sep '14 7:16:55 PM by dnc

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8962: Sep 14th 2014 at 7:53:37 PM

Just because you learn how to do three separate things doesn't mean you know how to do them in quick succession. Much of doing combinations of moves is actually combining them, which is not as simple as it sounds.

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dnc Troll Logician Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#8963: Sep 14th 2014 at 8:14:49 PM

The combination seems like something that shadow clones would help with, though. While it's almost guaranteed that Naruto would mess up the jump to toss to second toss, it's unimaginable that every clone would mess up the same way. Maybe one tripped on a rock because his practice area had more rocks, maybe one fucked up his jump because the grass was slippery where he was, maybe one toss the second one wrong because the wind messed with the flight path. But they'll be enough clones running around that one thing will happen.

By sheer luck, one of them will get it right.

You don't learn how to do something by failing at it a hundred times. You learn how to do something by accidentally doing it once. Then twice. Then a third time. Until it stops being an accident.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8964: Sep 14th 2014 at 8:21:50 PM

Yes, one of them will get it right. However, instead of having all the memories of you refining that movement until you get it perfect, you've got hundreds of conflicting sets of memories where you're screwing up in wildly different ways every time because of circumstances outside of your control.

As you might've guessed from that description, I can still find a reason why it wouldn't work.

Just because you get something right once by fluke doesn't mean you're gonna repeat it. Furthermore, if you've trained so much doing it wrong, it'll be very tough to change everything you do so you can get it right even once.

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dnc Troll Logician Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#8965: Sep 14th 2014 at 9:41:55 PM

You remember getting something right a lot more than you remember getting something wrong.

It's part of the reason learning works, otherwise we'd always fuck up anything we can't do right now because before we get start getting it right, we're going to be fucking up a lot more than we get it right. Do we fail to learn anything and become total retards because of it, nope. (At least hopefully.)

You can probably experience it by playing any platformer with jumps you have trouble with. Find one that you have big problems with, like, you need to take 30 minutes learning that ONE jump problem with. Keep playing until you can do that, and you'll find afterwards you'll never have problems again. Even if you stop playing the game for like 5 years, come back. All it'll take is like a few minutes of getting the rust out, and you'll do that jump no problem.

It's because your brain remembers 'the timing where you got it right' a lot better than the 'timings where you got it wrong.' I mean, your subconsious can be a total dumbfuck a lot of the time, but for something like learning what you want to do versus that you don't want to do, it's pretty good. It'll just categorize the missed jumps under the file 'do not give a shit' and all the jumps you make under the file 'give a huge shit.'

If we pretend your brain is a operating system, the 'give a huge shit' file is the file you have on your desktop, and the 'don't give a shit' file is the one hidden deep inside a part of the windows32 file, like, 5 subdirectories deep. So deep that even if you know the extension it'll take you ages to find it. Sure, there's more items in the 'don't give a shit file' but what file do you think is gonna be looked at more?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8966: Sep 14th 2014 at 11:09:21 PM

That's not even close to the same circumstances.

Simple repetition will never get you to do something that you're doing wrong right. Correction will, practice will, but simply repeating the same thing a million times, in the exact same way, will mean that you did the exact same thing a million times, in the exact same way.

If Naruto sits a thousand clones to do the leaf cutting exercise, he's just doing pointless repetition. Even though 1000 clones are working on it, they're all doing the exact same thing, so his learning time is still at x1. Because they all think the exact same way and they're all going to go through the exact same process, save for the possibility of extraneous circumstances, which you can't always rely on.

The only real way you'd get a benefit out of the Kage Bunshin exercise is if each of them trains in something different.

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Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#8967: Sep 14th 2014 at 11:21:58 PM

Or you could all have them cutting leaves until one makes any sort of improvement, dispel that one which gives the exp to every clone. Then repeat until all clones are used up. It's not years in a week fast, but still better than nothing.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8968: Sep 15th 2014 at 12:01:50 AM

They're all going to get it at the exact same time. They're all the exact same person, they all think the exact same way, and there's no reason to believe they would perform any differently.

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dnc Troll Logician Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#8969: Sep 15th 2014 at 12:34:30 AM

I'm almost the same person every time I throw a baseball, but that doesn't mean that the baseball's gonna fly the same way every time. Even if, say, someone wiped my memory and reset my body to the state before I threw that baseball, I would still throw the baseball differently every time. If I could do the exact same throw every time just because I didn't have the memory of doing the throw, then I'm a damn machine.

In a good way. Having that kind of precision would be awesome.

Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#8970: Sep 15th 2014 at 12:36:39 AM

I think IANCE is referring to the phenomenon known as muscle memory. Wherein learning to do something incorrectly can cause you to have trouble learning to do it correctly. As demonstrated by this trope.

On an unrelated topic, have you ever gotten to the point where you know what you need to do to progress your fic, but you really don't want to because it means doing something horrible to one of your characters?

edited 15th Sep '14 12:38:52 AM by Hyp3rB14d3

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8971: Sep 15th 2014 at 12:45:02 AM

[up]Never.

I love it when a story gives me a chance to do something horrible to one of my characters.

[up][up]You do it differently every single time. You correct your aim a little every single time. You let go at a slightly different time. You move your arm in a slightly different way. You focus your eyes on something slightly different.

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Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#8972: Sep 15th 2014 at 3:53:08 AM

IANCE: Technically they're all having unique experiences, but yeah it's not likely to be unique enough so you'll have to rely on glorious random chance.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#8973: Sep 30th 2014 at 5:04:46 PM

If any of you is following Konoha no San Yuri... well, it's just not Naruto-chan's day, I'd say.

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#8974: Sep 30th 2014 at 8:48:11 PM

Just read the latest "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth." Kakashi convinces Lee and Neji to steal erotic novels from a bookstore as training. They get caught.

edited 30th Sep '14 8:53:34 PM by Hyp3rB14d3

Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#8975: Oct 2nd 2014 at 2:15:11 AM

[up][up]I saw that get linked on 4chan the other day, yer famus!


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