I don't hate Christmas, I just don't want to delude my hypothetical children into believing in something blatantly untrue for very little reason. Also, being the youngest child I knew to stop believing in Santa Claus gave me a sense of smug self-satisfaction which lasted for several years every time the subject came up, and I want my hypothetical children to experience that joy.
Scepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom. - Clarence DarrowBy the way, I absolutely love Christmas. Christmas, Easter and Midsummer are the only things I celebrate (screw birthdays).
edited 12th Jul '11 11:09:39 AM by fanty
I fucking love Christmas.
Scepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom. - Clarence DarrowSo your a commie. I am going to go write a letter.
Dear Mr Mc Carthy,
Today I have uncovered a communist plot and...
edited 12th Jul '11 11:08:24 AM by TheDeadMansLife
Please.Santa Claus is fun. Why ruin such a super fun thing as this?
Also, Santa is real. He is a kitty cat and flies at mach 100. The government pays him.
Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! ~ GODSo Santa is...
If I ever have kids they're not even going to be celebrating Christmas let alone believing in Santa.
I wouldn't tell them but I wouldn't not tell them about Santa. My mom just went along with whatever I said. If I said I believed in Santa, she went along with it but when I quit believing she quit.
No.
If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.I don't remember if I ever believed in Santa or not, but I can't see what's fun about not knowing things, or knowing incorrect things. Well, maybe in a mystery novel or something, but in reality? There's nothing fun about being out of the loop. It can also be emotionally frustrating. If I ever have kids, I'll tell them the truth, that some people believe in an entity called Santa which has the properties of blah blah blah.
Well, seeing as how I am not Christian and do not celebrate x-mas, and there's a strong chance that who ever my wife will be will also not be a Christian nor celebrate x-mas, it wouldn't even be an issue for me. On the off chance that it somehow does come up, no I'm not lying to my kid about that.
edited 12th Jul '11 2:25:13 PM by imojee
Through the eyes I have known you.Not to criticise but merely to point out, in Britain and, to the best of my knowledge, the US, most people celebrate Christmas regardless of religion. I have Muslim and Sikh friends who do, not to mention myself, the militant super-atheist. I mean, come on, Festival of Commerce!*
edited 12th Jul '11 2:21:52 PM by cityofmist
Scepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom. - Clarence DarrowAlso, the whole Santa thing is itself the secular version of Christmas. The heavily religious people are much more concerned with Jesus being born and all that.
I celebrate Christmas solely because it is the societal norm, though I don't care about it at all. Never cared about holidays in general.
The sin of silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.I don't care about most holidays, but I'm a big fan of anything that involves people giving me things.
What is that I don't even.
edited 12th Jul '11 2:29:53 PM by cityofmist
Scepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom. - Clarence DarrowI love Christmas. The superior holiday is Christmaskah. It doesn't matter if I'm Buddhist. Christmaskah, dammit. We have Bodhi Day on December 8th for The Buddha's birth, but it's not as popular as Visakha Puja (takes place in May, was the 17th this year) is. I'll be celebrating that too...By taking The Eight Precepts and not going around getting shit tons of gifts and food from people...
...AND THEN CHRISTMASKAH.
edited 12th Jul '11 2:27:33 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahNot if they're actually religious enough to read the Bible and pay attention, because it makes it pretty clear he was born in the spring (born with the laying of the lambs, the shepherds are out in their fields, etc.)
The date of Christmas was chosen to roughly coincide with the winter solstice, such that non-christians who were converting (read: Germanic tribes) could continue to celebrate their drinking holiday, winter solstice. It also meant they could point to people celebrating the solstice and say "they're celebrating Christmas!"
True story. Hence why it should be no surprise it's such a commercialized holiday, it basically began as a sellout/concession to gain followers, by monopolizing a previously existing drinking holiday.
edited 12th Jul '11 2:56:43 PM by deathjavu
Look, you can't make me speak in a logical, coherent, intelligent bananna.It's the holiday of a religion that preaches against worldly attachments and how I celebrate it because I am into my Buddhist thing, city?
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahI'm just laughing at the image of someone going around deliberately not getting gifts.
"Hello, please do not give me anything! No really, don't give me any gifts, or anything like that. I don't want them."
"If I could just have a moment of your time, would you be so kind as to not give me a gift? It would only take a second, kind sir."
"Ma'm, could I trouble you for a not-gift? I swear I won't sell it to buy not-booze."
Look, you can't make me speak in a logical, coherent, intelligent bananna.@Death I'm a Christian and I know about how Christmas was invented, but I still celebrate Christ's birth on that day.
There's no justice in the world and there never was~I will accept offerings of food though I should note. But only from sunrise to noon. Once noon has passed no food. At all. Till the next sunrise.
edited 12th Jul '11 3:09:11 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan ChahEven if you know that Jesus wasn't born on that day, what matters is what it represents.
I don't hate Christmas; to be honest, I envy it, as well as Yule and similar celebrations. I'm stuck sandwiched between not wanting to appropriate Christian practices (obnoxious and offensive) and not wanting to reject my own culture (pretentious and boring). All that's left is a kind of tacky celebration of goodwill, generosity and capitalism, and that's what Santa represents.
That's not why I wouldn't lie to kids about Santa, though. I don't want to insult or upset them by lying to them, is all.
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I never believed in Santa as a kid, but my brother and sister did. Tv tends to spoil the fact that Santa is fake so when my parents told my lil bro and sis they already knew. I don't see a reason in not telling your kids. Unless you are somebody who hates Christmas.
Why do you hate Christmas?
Please.