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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Surely that one can be a lynch pin in stolen identity suit
With this, The lawsuits might have the best proof they could ever get of fake comments, methinks.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:25:46 PM by MorningStar1337
I meant to ask this awhile ago but what are these stolen identities about? The FCC stealing a bunch for a fake petition to justify ending net neutrality or something along those lines right?
edited 17th Dec '17 12:29:24 PM by LSBK
They ran a bot to create fake filings with stolen identities, yes.
They'd been using mass-collected data to use as identities for the same repeated comment in support of repealing net neutrality—i.e., to make it go through the public comment stage with apparent public support. Only, all the comments are identical and blatantly partisan, the identities involved include numerous dead people, some identities have been used more than once...
And now they got the previous president involved. The idiots.
Avatar SourceThis is a programming error of epic proportions...
I don't think the FCC actually faked the comments, but they aren't cooperating with the investigation into it
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonSeriously? Even if Obama wrote that, some of the people writing comments are literally dead. There is no way a chunk of those comments are not the result of identity theft and fraud.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:34:58 PM by ViperMagnum357
A perspective on the Jones Victory from someone who by the tone of the article is sympathetic to the GOP: Democrats should be heartbroken that Roy Moore lost note
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesThe comments are obviously fake, I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that I don't the the FCC is behind it. Maybe the IS Ps are, but it's still bad that the FCC isn't investigating it.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison"By the tone"? They're openly celebrating that Moore lost because they think it's bad for Democrats by the end.
Never mind that the GOP is in such a bad position because it has no control over avoiding more nominees like Moore.
I highly doubt that Pai isn't involved in some capacity.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:39:40 PM by RainehDaze
Avatar SourceYeah, I am sure anything about that article should be taken seriously.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:39:47 PM by LSBK
Came across this on a Twitter called @HoarseWhisperer
Start of thread: https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/942221228483469312
TL;DR - The Trump administration thought they had a guy protecting their emails from Mueller. That guy died when the investigation was starting and his subordinates cooperated fully without a word to the administration when Mueller asked for the info months ago.
You're going to enjoy this...
I've read the full letter Trump transition team attorneys sent to legislators re: Mueller obtaining their emails.
It has a delicious reveal.
https://t.co/gHZPrX3CVn (link is a download link to the letter mentioned)
As we now know:
1) Mueller obtained ALL of the emails sent to/from Trump transition team accounts
2) The Trump gang only realized this after Mueller's team seemed to know all about their emails
3) This made them quite... upset
4) Thier lawyers then wrote the letter in the link to congressmen complaining about just how upsetting all of this is.
Here's the classically amusing reveal in the letter...
Earlier this year, Trump appointed the top attorney at the office responsible for providing all the electronics and email accounts the Trump transition team used.
That attorney's name was Richard Backler.
Now, as background, Backler was a white collar criminal defense attorney before his appointment.
He helped rich criminals beat government convictions for a firm with a name you'll find familiar.
Bracewell & Giuliani.
So, Trump appointed Backler and then Backler went and ensured Trump transition team attorneys that he would not allow his org (the GSA) to provide any of their emails to investigators.
One problem: Backler fell ill and ultimately passed away.
So, until Mueller's crew started asking Trump aides about those emails, they had absolutely no idea Mueller had them because they thought Trump's guy on the inside was running interference for them.
Let that one sink in.
Trump and his flunkies thought their friend at the GSA had locked their emails away *literally* in a vault no one could get to...
They thought their bodies were all buried.
As a result, Trump's people walked into their interviews with Mueller and team with a completely false sense of confidence that he didn't know what he already knew in spades.
They thought he was fishing. He was just reeling fish in.
Can you imagine the freakout that must have occurred in Trumpland when they realized their cleanup guy hadn't actually done the cleanup after all?
Alllllllll of the things they thought they had buried were not only not buried; Mueller had them in writing!
While this is just conjecture, I suspect the entire Trump orbit just realized that Mueller has a trove that entirely hangs them out to dry AND brings them down for obstruction and lying to Mueller to boot.
Trump appointed a Giuliani guy to protect him from Mueller...
...and then the guy went and died just as Mueller was coming a'calling.
Trump must be losing his freaking mind...
...even more panicked: Jared Kushner.
Mueller is gonna roast them all.
Note: Trump team knew Beckler had died. They didn’t know he had failed to lock down their electronics and emails - and didn’t know GSA staff had produced them all without telling anyone.
One more note: as the letter in the link lays out, Beckler was incapacitated by August. He was hospitalized when Mueller’s crew came a’knockin’.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:42:45 PM by sgamer82
Ah, the classic: "Democrats couldn't possibly have been sincere about wanting to punish sex offenders, they must've had some kind of agenda."
edited 17th Dec '17 12:42:16 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
Yeah that's just projection of the highest degree, it's like calling anyone who opposes bigotry a virtue signaler.
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -HylarnI love the fact that MSN found it necessary to put a disclaimer on the whole thing.
Holy shit... man... this administration has perfected the art of dropping the ball.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:47:45 PM by GamesandTropes
I got about two sections through the legalese, and I'm wondering what the actual counterarguments to their claims (that the emails were agreed to be private documents of the transition team) are.
Avatar SourceTo be fair, "sitting Republican senator is a suspected serial child rapist" is a mother lode of political attack ads.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe fact that it is true (I can confirm that it is, but, given that it is a current legal situation, I cannot disclose sources), in this case, is even more so.
edited 17th Dec '17 12:56:33 PM by GamesandTropes
(Clears throat) Ahem: BUT HIS EMAILS!
Confidentiality and all that has a very, very narrow focus and a majority of cases do not apply in legal situations. There is Lawyer-Client confidentiality, but unless the lawyers in question were retained for this specific issue, it does not apply.
In this case, the emails being considered private documents means absolutely nothing, since a warrant would have been required to get them this way anyway. They are legal court documents now.
edited 17th Dec '17 1:11:24 PM by Zendervai
Not Three Laws compliant.I do love the fact that, despite Trump's very loud yelling about Hillary's emails, his emails are probably the most damning of all of them.
Oooh...here is hoping for some more good news out of Alabama soon.
@Septimus: The article is still nonsense because the Democrats are in a much better position now, both by having 1 more crucial vote in the Senate and not having to deal with a raving lunatic eyeing the women in congress.
edited 17th Dec '17 1:16:13 PM by Grafite
Life is unfair...It's called projection, people. Very Freudian.
Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
This is darkly hilarious.