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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
That strikes me as making a flying leap to conclusions. Like, just for starters, he'd have know something bad enough that they'd prefer that the headline say 'Trump administration has high-profile politician killed to prevent him from testifying' than just letting him talk. And if he knew anything that big, they probably wouldn't be taking immunity off the table.
edited 23rd May '17 7:50:48 PM by Gilphon
"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."I'm glad more efforts to elect democrats in local seats are turning out well.
edited 23rd May '17 8:36:48 PM by fruitpork
Trump signed the guest book at Israel's Holocaust memorial museum the same way he tweets
Sean Hannity is going full Alex Jones over Trump's Russian connections, including claims that (((they))) will silence him.
Someone's about to get the boot and is certainly going to try the conspiracy crackhead territory,.
Inter arma enim silent legesOn that note:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/23/media/seth-rich-family-letter-hannity-fox-news/
The brother of slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich wrote a letter on Tuesday to the executive producer of Sean Hannity's Fox News show pleading with him to find "decency and kindness" in his heart and stop spreading an unproven conspiracy theory about the unsolved murder.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/22/media/fox-news-staffers-seth-rich-dnc-sean-hannity/index.html?iid=EL
Fox News staffers 'disgusted' at network's promotion of Seth Rich conspiracy theory
WaPo certainly did:
edited 23rd May '17 8:08:48 PM by sgamer82
Honestly the note could've been much worse. I was imagining worse. And wow, can you see the difference b/w Trump's and President Obama's writing.
Hannity's been saying that for weeks. And I don't think he has any tv personality outside crusading rebel.
edited 23rd May '17 8:10:15 PM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesWhile I'm not exactly offended (and for the record, Bush was even shorter with his), I am really weirded out by the tone, especially "with all my friends." For that matter, just how many people there does he actually consider a friend? How many of them consider him a friend?
edited 23rd May '17 8:09:18 PM by Eschaton
He probably assumes everyone considers him a friend while knowing none of them actually are his friends unless they're family
Good for New Hampshire.
Looks like Montana is next as far as special elections go. Looking at the wikipedia article only two polling firms have been covering the election with any real detail, and they are giving wildly contradictory results. With Gravis Marketing polls giving Greg Gianforte (R) a comfortable lead, while Google Consumer Surveys are giving the cowboy-hatted Rob Quist (D)note a comfortable lead, even in polls taken at the same time.
According to 538's pollster ratings, Google Conumer Surveys is slightly more predictive of actual election results, but we are talking a 84% accuracy rate verse a 79% accuracy rate for Gravis Marketing. In other words, while this does give Rob Quist a slight advantage, it's only a slight advantage.
Still, this is one of those elections where the fact it's even close is a very positive sign for the Democrats.
Regarding the Flynn thing, can we please refrain from assuming/starting conspiracy theory plans about assassinating anybody? Hell, if it gets the point where he's in jail then whatever he knows has probably already been said, and if it was that dangerous they'd keep him in protective custody until then. As for things unrelated to this case, well, there's plenty of people who've shared his level of clearance and I'm pretty sure most of them haven't been assassinated.
Seriously, that's youtube level commentary.
I love how Trump made the words 'Never Forget' in his signature so...contextually ambiguous?
He'll never forget the amazing visit?
He'll never forget the Holocaust and the murder of 6 million Jews by the Nazi regime?
Who can say?
"You can reply to this Message!"Trump's comment sounds like he doesn't realise he's at a holocaust memorial rather than at some tourist attraction. Bush did much better with less words.
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."Probably because he understands and tries to practice the concept of this thing we call tact. Trump.... just does not give a fuck.
Tact, compassion, basic empathy...all foreign concepts to Trump.
Disgusted, but not surprisedSo, any good news at all on the political front, guys?
That bill really doesn't make sense beyond appealing to the whole "small government" deregulation endemic to the GOP.
If it's not vetoed, that basically means restaurants will not only avoid paying $35 a year to register scales, there won't be anyone checking whether or not said restaurants are ripping customers off a few ounces of meat at a time. Which isn't nothing — meat isn't cheap, and all that adds up.
edited 24th May '17 2:25:51 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedQuestion about the whole Russian interference thing: What, exactly, do they think they did? I'm kinda confused about this, hopefully someone can help me out.
Just another day in the life of Jimmy NutrinPro-bono opposition research (in the form of laundering various leaked and/or stolen documents from the Clinton campaign via Wikileaks and publicizing said leaks via Russian state media) which may have been coordinated with the Trump campaign.
So fairly tame as far as the history of electoral espionage goes, but definitely enough to bring down the Trump administration if he's found to have been complicit in it.
edited 24th May '17 6:04:50 AM by CaptainCapsase
There's also probably helping them microtarget potential swing voters through Facebook. I forget the details, but I think the Russians hacked or stole info on people who voted democrat and gave that to Bannon's company which could then send those people pro-Trump/anti-Clinton articles, or something like that. Unless I'm wrong.
Also, Trump's in trouble just for trying to cover this all up, just like what happened with Nixon.
edited 24th May '17 6:07:46 AM by StarOutlaw
Thunder, Thunder, Thunder...Democrats Flipped Seats In 2 Districts That Voted For Trump
edited 24th May '17 6:18:29 AM by NoName999
That's the best news I've heard in a while. We might actually have a chance to pull this stunt on a mass scale if we keep this momentum going (and the GOP doesn't get a counter-plan in place fast enough).
Another good thing. For once, no conflicts of interest were found with Robert Mueller, the special Counsel, which helps back up his reputation.
edited 24th May '17 7:14:44 AM by megaeliz
I also remember all those Berniecrats that won their School Board Elections in New Mexico.
It's good that they're winning in the States, which I think is a huge positive, but so far all the States they've won in have been Democrat leaning states already.
Hopefully, though, Rob Quist of Montana and Jon Ossoff of Georgia win their Special Elections and prove their is momentum for this movement.
Flynn is a dead man walking regardless of how this turns out.
He Knows Too Much is in full force here
New Survey coming this weekend!