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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#127726: Jun 25th 2016 at 7:14:57 AM

Yes, but he seems to want her to take all of his positions. In an interview with CBS, he said this: "I want her to say among other things, we have a crisis in higher education — public universities and colleges should be tuition free. Raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. I believe that healthcare should be a right of all people. I would love her to say that and I would love her to move aggressively to make that happen."

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#127727: Jun 25th 2016 at 7:16:05 AM

She's agreed or indicated her desire to move towards all of those things already.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#127728: Jun 25th 2016 at 7:16:48 AM

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Because he'd done something that tends to be very hard for politicians to do - he got the 18-35 demographic out in rather strong numbers, and that's a group that's generally not too visible in regards to politics.

And Alley, there's a difference between anti-Semitism and criticizing Israel - not saying that you are, but the two do get conflated with each other due to the former obviously doing the latter.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#127729: Jun 25th 2016 at 7:59:12 AM

You may know Hank Paulson as the guy who's name is on 10-year-old dollar bills, he was at Treasury for Bush in the runup to the financial crisis and very much cut from the same cloth as Tim Geithner, just with a different party affiliation.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#127731: Jun 25th 2016 at 8:50:12 AM

Methinks its Castro. The Senate is a free for all this cycle, no?

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#127732: Jun 25th 2016 at 8:58:25 AM

First Hussein then Castro. What's going on with the Dem?

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#127733: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:02:06 AM

It's not going to be Castro. He's not qualified, and his charisma is overstated. I'm guessing it's going to be Kaine or Warren.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#127734: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:16:30 AM

I hope it's not either of those three.

Bercerra or Perez.

I'll accept Kaine...I won't like it...but I'll accept it.

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#127735: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:22:08 AM

I love Warren, but I don't know how well she'd work.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#127736: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:25:46 AM

She'd be good for the Left/Progressive Vote most likely, and make them feel like their voices are wanted in the party tent.

But Hillary's Wall Street allies have basically said they'll vanish into the sea with their money if Hillary picks Warren. And pragmatically that is a war chest she could use if Trump manages a From Behind Return.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#127737: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:26:55 AM

That hinges on whether Warren would accept the offer, seeing as this might be a way to both solidify the Liberal vote and invoke Kicked Upstairs on Warren. While Theodore Roosevelt became President that way, it's a bit classless to want the death of a political foe - as UKIP's Robert Blay found out last month.

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#127738: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:39:58 AM

Also there's the concern for if the Dems want to risk either of the two senate seats being lost, even temporarily.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#127739: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:48:59 AM

[up]Precisely.

The Senate is too important (and Warren has more use there anyway) to make her veep.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#127740: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:57:27 AM

Kaine, at least, is in a state with a Democratic governor.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#127741: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:04:39 AM

Yeah, but what does he add for Clinton?

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#127742: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:12:07 AM

"Not offending anyone by being bland as white bread."

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#127743: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:19:41 AM

[up]...which is not necessarily a bad thing for a Vice-President, especially in this election cycle. The job has been described as a four-year-long coffee break.

edited 25th Jun '16 10:43:57 AM by pwiegle

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#127744: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:49:31 AM

I wouldn't say Biden or Chaney were taking coffee breaks during their respective eight years. The vice-presidency is a flexible position in terms of power, they can do whatever their president sees fit to bestow upon them.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#127745: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:54:52 AM

I'd imagine, depending on the circumstances, Clinton will likely be the wonk who works hard, and the VP will sell the idea to the public. VP might undermine her in status, possibly, but she's always cares about getting shit done, and whether it fails or not, she's going to get the blame/credit regardless, so why bother trying to do any pitching to the public IF you don't absolutely have to?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#127746: Jun 25th 2016 at 11:11:35 AM

Even if Kaine is inoffensive he won't win a net gain of voters, like some of the other picks might.

@ironballs16

I know exactly the difference, and unfortunately I'm talking about fullblown anti-Semitism or people intentionally using the matter of Israel to justify stances towards Jews as an ethnic group. There's a similar hatred of East Asians from these kinds of people on the left that's also really unfortunate too. The logic being both groups are statistically more likely to be privileged in the US compared to other groups by some metrics, therefore it's OK to spew hateful things about them.

edited 25th Jun '16 11:14:16 AM by AlleyOop

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#127747: Jun 25th 2016 at 12:06:14 PM

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Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#127748: Jun 25th 2016 at 12:06:33 PM

The first job of a vice president is to deter assassins by being even more anathema to all of your enemies than you are. The second job is to be a sensible pick to lead the country if job one fails or a poorly secured roof tile falls on you from a great height.

The vice president doesn't have any other jobs, just "duties" that is supposed to keep him or her up-to-date on what the government is doing and prevent them from going entirely insane with boredom.

I think this means Warren is the best choice. It also means she might well say no.

edited 25th Jun '16 12:07:21 PM by Izeinsummer

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#127749: Jun 25th 2016 at 12:11:51 PM

Plus breaking ties in the Senate.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#127750: Jun 25th 2016 at 1:03:50 PM

[up][up]Honestly, Hil hate is such that any potential assassin would not care. Warren is disliked, but not nearly as well known as Hil.


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