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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#121451: May 5th 2016 at 6:24:53 PM

I wasn't really upset, just taken a bit by surprise. Maybe I could have been better about that, too.

edited 5th May '16 6:25:28 PM by LSBK

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#121452: May 5th 2016 at 6:26:18 PM

I'm watching this topic. I was a bit taken aback but we settled things through discussion, which is the purpose of the forums. So, yay.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#121453: May 5th 2016 at 6:26:58 PM

[up][up], [up] It probably helps that I only skimmed the article and mentally conflated it with another one that I read, which did in fact all claim that the fact that most young male voters were voting for Sanders proved that misogyny was on the rise among the youth, citing a study about the political and social views of millennials that came to the exact opposite conclusion.

edited 5th May '16 6:35:15 PM by CaptainCapsase

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#121454: May 5th 2016 at 6:37:05 PM

Donald Trump tweets picture of him eating taco bowl, says, 'I love Hispanics'.
So will Trump's outreach to African Americans be him tweeting a picture of himself eating watermelon and fried chicken, saying "I love Black People"? 'cuz that's what I'm half expecting from Trump at this rate.

And I come bearing articles:

Paul Ryan still unwilling to back Donald Trump as the GOP Nominee

NewsMax: The Koch Brothers, faced with Donald Trump, are considering sitting out this election or possibly even backing Hillary Clinton.

The White House's own reports are noting Non-compete Agreements are probably one of the biggest dangers to American innovation.

The CFPB is instituting a rule, giving consumers the right to sue banks for misconduct, following new rules on tax inversions, financial advice, andhints of a crackdown on shell companies

Of course, this all requires the next president to continue cracking down on these industries.

(Vox) Why some conservatives are beginning to realize blocking Merrick Garland is a bad idea (basically runs into Prisoner Dilemma Logic, that they have four possible choices, and two of them are picking Garland, or they get the Trump Pony or the Hillary Death Unicorn)

Trump names Steven Mnuchin, CEO of Dune Capital Management LP, as chairman of his national finance chairman.

Trump's finance chairman, Steven Mnuchin, has previously donated to Democrats

FEC incapable of curbing 2016 election finance abuse because of 3-3 ties The agency is literally too partisan to do anything

Tensions Rise Over Republican VP Options: Adviser Ben Carson says GOP front-runner Donald Trump could pick a Democrat or an independent (and won't nominate himself)

(Politico) Hillary allies target Bush donors: Their message to moderate Republicans: She represents your values better than Trump.

(Politico) Karl Rove-backed PAC warms to Trump: The strategist publicly questions Trump’s electability, but privately his PAC tells donors Trump can win.

Welcome to Griftopia on Trump Lane and Rove Road.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#121455: May 5th 2016 at 6:39:42 PM

[up] Regarding the banks, unless the losses to lawsuits (or actual criminal charges with jail time) are going to outweigh the potential earnings, banks aren't going to stop abiding by laws and regulations at their convenience.

And holy shit, I think I might actually be right that Trump's planning to run to the left of Clinton on some issues. Until Clinton inevitably claims she was even further left since forever and we've always been at war with Eastasia.

edited 5th May '16 6:43:25 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#121456: May 5th 2016 at 6:44:41 PM

And it's going to work and he's going to win and everything will be terrible, right?

Another green world.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#121457: May 5th 2016 at 6:46:46 PM

[up] Honestly, if he's running with a democratic running mate, we're reaching the point where he's literally going to drop all the horribly racist rhetoric overnight and be a completely different person in the general election. That's all the more reason not to vote for him, since that puts every other politician (both Clintons included) to shame, but it could work.

edited 5th May '16 6:47:21 PM by CaptainCapsase

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#121459: May 5th 2016 at 6:47:36 PM

Why shouldn't he. He's not bound to the conservative social planks like the other Republican candidates were.

He's basically taken Transphobia mostly off of his table going "Eh, who gives a fuck about the bathroom" basically.

And he's basically swung left of New Democrats/Neo Liberal Technocrats on Social Security and Medicare, basically saying the two should be untouched and unfiddled with and we shouldn't fuck around with these programs which old people and the infirm need. (While the Technocrats love using them as bargaining chips to raise taxes)

He's still an abhorrent racist and a psychotic warmonger, but he is swinging left-ish on social plank issues.

I would literally laugh if he picked Jim Webb as his running mate.

edited 5th May '16 6:48:20 PM by PotatoesRock

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#121460: May 5th 2016 at 6:48:05 PM

If Trump successfully positions himself as more moderate than Clinton, I will... well, I'll have to move to that ski chalet in Hell that I was sold a timeshare to last year.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#121461: May 5th 2016 at 6:49:08 PM

[up][up] He wasn't really perceived as horrendously racist prior to the election, and I never really followed him in prior years, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the blatant race baiting has all been part of an act to gain power.

[up] I feel like the entire theme of his campaign has been "just crazy enough to work", so I wouldn't totally rule it out, though the question then becomes

A. Will the electorate forget all the horrible things he said during primary season?

B. Will the Republican electorate actually vote for him just because he has an R next to his name, even if he's basically campaigning as a democrat?

edited 5th May '16 6:50:31 PM by CaptainCapsase

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#121462: May 5th 2016 at 6:51:29 PM

Well Hillary allies are trying to position her as a High Priestess of the Cult of Centrism for moderate Republicans.

So yes, it comically looks like we might bizarrely be entering zone where Hillary is the Right Wing Candidate and Trump is the Left Wing Candidate.

Clearly what Hillary needs to do is fuse with Sanders and become Hernie Clanders.

He wasn't really perceived as horrendously racist prior to the election, and I never really followed him in prior years, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the blatant race baiting has all been part of an act to gain power.

IIRC, his father was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and he's spoken in books about minorities being 'inferior' to Whites.

edited 5th May '16 6:52:33 PM by PotatoesRock

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#121463: May 5th 2016 at 6:52:58 PM

[up] His father or Trump personally? Because I hadn't heard about that. Yeah, that's definitely not encouraging, all the more so if he suddenly starting campaigning on an economic platform I would agree with but whose social views I find absolutely abhorrent.

@Fighteer: It fits with the whole concept of him as a fascist; while it's typically described as an extreme right wing ideology, fascists at times could and did support and implement leftist policies in order to gain the approval of the general populace. It's a very disjointed ideology with only a few unifying tenets compared to say communism.

edited 5th May '16 7:00:51 PM by CaptainCapsase

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#121465: May 5th 2016 at 7:03:01 PM

[up] I'm actually quite surprised I never heard about that.

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#121466: May 5th 2016 at 8:59:12 PM

Trump in the 80s correctly predicted Japanese supremacy over the world economy. ;)

He's always been about foreign conspiracies.

Great men are almost never good men, they say. One wonders what philosopher of the good would value the impotence of his disciples.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#121467: May 5th 2016 at 9:05:33 PM

[up] Well, until it came crashing down in the late 2000s.

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#121468: May 5th 2016 at 9:08:12 PM

Japan's economic dominance was always more of a paper thing than a real thing. A lot of silly movies like Rising Sun made money off of that particular meme, though.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#121469: May 5th 2016 at 9:08:49 PM

In fairness, a lot of people bought into that in the 1980s.

edited 5th May '16 9:09:16 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#121470: May 5th 2016 at 9:12:18 PM

[up] They were the kings of video games until the Late 2000s, though.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#121471: May 5th 2016 at 10:30:16 PM

And they still own the automobile industry and industrial robotics. But they're not going to take over the world anymore - they're going to slowly age out of existence.

edited 5th May '16 10:30:45 PM by Ramidel

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#121472: May 5th 2016 at 11:03:11 PM

Don't worry, Japan will replace its population with robots. Then it will be the world's first robocracy.

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Beware the Crazy Man.
#121473: May 5th 2016 at 11:15:24 PM

Topic?

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#121474: May 5th 2016 at 11:27:27 PM

[up] Will Hillary become America's first Japanese-robot president?

Paul Ryan: 'I'm just not ready' to back Trump.

The Club for Growth's PAC, after warning GOP candidates that backing Donald Trump could cost them the group's support, is giving conservatives a pass now that Trump has effectively locked up the nomination.

The casino magnate Sheldon G. Adelson said that he would support Donald J. Trump.

edited 5th May '16 11:40:33 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
garridob My name's Ben. from South Korea Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
My name's Ben.
#121475: May 5th 2016 at 11:30:02 PM

Trump has been making ridiculous, panicky statements about evil foreigners for a long time. I think we might reasonably expect that to be a stable trait of Mr. Trump's otherwise very flexible "code."

Great men are almost never good men, they say. One wonders what philosopher of the good would value the impotence of his disciples.

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