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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Whoa. 
I never agreed with most of his judgments, but I wouldn't have wanted him to die so suddenly.
edited 13th Feb '16 2:00:20 PM by Keybreak
Whoa. That's a shock.
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The article says he died of natural causes.
edited 13th Feb '16 2:01:03 PM by Kostya
Other sources? Wikipedia's page is only half updated I see.
I think you can brace yourselves for a fight in front of the Senate on the succession if this is true.
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RIP. Also, Hooooooo boy.
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Holy shit.
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Can someone tell me just how this is a big deal? Because if he died from natural causes, than I don't see how this would be an issue.
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From the office of Texas Governor Greg Abbott on Scalia's death.
It's due to being:
- A death of a conservative Justice.
- During an election year were partisan politics are ramped up
edited 13th Feb '16 2:07:02 PM by tclittle
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A procrastination in of itself
Because now he has to be replaced, by an Obama nominee that has to be approved by the Senate. What's the longest a seat has sat empty because the senate wouldn't approve the president's choice? Because this could easily be ragged on unti we've got a new Senate.
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Ah, there it is, the weird feeling of juxtaposition I get when someone's death will actually lead to a better world but it's still a horrible waste of human life. That's always fun.
And of course it happens during an election year.
Hopefully Obama can get someone on the Supreme Court by next year, just in case.
It's an issue because it means Obama will have to nominate a replacement now. And while Scalia is a hard right winger, Obama is left wing and his nominated replacement will likely swing the court to the left if approved by the Senate.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Media is already suggesting Congress may postpone a new SCOTUS appointment until after the November election.
If Obama can get in even a Centrist Judge past the Senate, this basically flips the court to Centrist/Left rulings instead of some of the quackier Right Wing positions like with Hobby Lobby.
Keep in mind that without Scalia, the court will already be swung left (decisions that would go 5-4 in favour of the right wing side will now deadlock instead, such as campaign financing decisions) so holding up a replacement will not help the Republicans much.
Also: Do we need to immediately talk about this in terms of how it favours a political side?
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@KK+: One, he wasn't expected to die, as he seemed in good health. Two, he's a Supreme Court Justice, and he's dead, meaning his seat's vacant, meaning there are now only eight Justices, meaning much of SCOTUS' caseload may have just been thrown into chaos.
Also, on the partisan side of things, since everybody knows Scalia was a major part of the unofficial, five-member Right wing of the Court that de-facto decided many cases, the balance of power is currently deadlocked and could shift to the Left if Obama or an incoming Dem President nominates a more liberal personage and gets them through the Senate.
Welp, ninja'd several times over.
edited 13th Feb '16 2:13:39 PM by darksidevoid
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Indeed. SCOTUS is the head of the third, co-equal branch of government, after all.
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Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Are there any important SCOTUS cases coming up that would be delayed?
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Definitely important cases yes, although I honestly can't think of what they are off the top of my head, and I'm not sure for how long or whether they would be delayed.
edited 13th Feb '16 2:19:36 PM by darksidevoid
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Some things have political consequences. Why shouldn't we discuss the potential political implications of things?
@Cases: They could potentially hear them but if they're a tie I don't know what the procedure would be.
He was, what, 79? I was surprised that he passed, but, I mean, he kept doing what he loved until the end.
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Someone I discussed this with pointed out that its...unlikely Obama manages to get a new appointee through the Senate (assuming that there are not a lot of Senate Defectors with Candidate Trump)
On the other hand, assuming the Dems get the Presidence and manage to take back the Senate.....at which point the GOP is in horror scenario land?
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The procedure in a SCOTUS tie is to uphold the latest lower court's decision, and the case itself is to not be treated as legal precedent. (So, a future case could decide things differently.)
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Because she has the nerve to run for president. It's a smear tactic. They've practically admitted to this.