The General US Politics Thread

So apparently this shit didn't stop when Charlton Heston died then.

"Yup. That tasted purple."

It just got worse, and will continue to get worse until the majority of Americans (who do not own guns) stand up and assert themselves.

And for responsible gun owners who don't wear their politics on their sleeves, this is very much a "this is why we can't have nice things" situation.

Even the most responsible gun owners do not trust other gun owners very much unless they themselves prove that they themselves are responsible.

Hence why I would think most gun owners would actually like car like licenses.

edited 10th Oct '15 10:36:27 AM by Memers

Yeah, that happens a lot.

I think I get annoyed with conservatives "owning" the gun debate for the same reason I get annoyed with liberals "owning" the environmentalism debate. These are issues that should transcend partisan boundaries, but they don't because specific identify traits are affixed to the issues.

As an Oregon resident who enjoyed having fun gun laws in a blue state these last couple of weeks have caused me disappointment in every facet. Sadness for the victims, less poignant but still present sadness that my day at the range will be inconvenienced by 10 round mags in the future, hatred for neo-Nazi's for being murderous fuckheads, hatred for rednecks making the whole thing worse...

edited 10th Oct '15 10:37:27 AM by Canid117

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins

I swear, the Tea Party keeps resembling our Golden Dawn more and more. From the xenophobia, to the gun/murder fetish and the insane levels of cognitive dissonance.

They are just more high-class/intellectual. It's pretty scare, to be honest.

edited 10th Oct '15 10:54:32 AM by LogoP

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.

Thats the most comically shitty attempt at disguising a Nazi flag in plain sight I have ever seen.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins

At least the Tea Party isn't totally embedded with organized crime the way GD is.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

(whoops)

edited 10th Oct '15 11:39:04 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

x3

There's the South African white supremacists...

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele

I have no intention of watching a South African Nazi recruitment video.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins

Recruitment video...where did you get that idea?

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele

Shouldn't discussion of that video go over in the race thread?

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)

No idea, all I see is part of the title "South Africa's White Supremacist Tra—" because youtube embeds have no title tooltip (and likely never will, because of how clickbaity it makes them).

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

Probably, but if anything apartheid and it's legacy is still around in the US.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele

@Rationalinsanity: It's tied up with our big corporations. Doesn't that count as organized crime?

President Obama considering using executive authority to expand background checks

Thanks, Obama.

See, that's what the NRA claims to want: "to enforce our existing laws strictly, not make new ones."

(What, you mean they only care about keeping guns out of the hands of felons when that doesn't require a background check to stop?)

edited 10th Oct '15 2:08:02 PM by Ramidel

THE ANTICHRIST IS COMING FOR OUR GUNS

"Yup. That tasted purple."

I've been having my position on guns wavering lately. I used to find the "we need guns to protect ourselves from the government, the way the founding fathers intended" arguments very compelling, but I just don't believe it anymore. We have the most guns in the world bar none, more guns than we have citizens, but we still have serious problems with police discrimination and abuses of power. I mean, in New Jersey they don't even need a warrant to toss your car anymore. And us having or not having guns won't change that, because we don't pull guns on cops. We just don't. Even if someone had a gun when Eric Garner or Walter Scott or anyone else was getting killed, they wouldn't pull it on those cops. And if they did, they'd be killed. And if they were killed, the same conservative gun-lovers who say they need their guns to protect their rights would stay behind the police for shooting them.

This is a point I wish was made more often. The overlap between people who want defend themselves from the government and people who dismiss police brutality and want a stronger military is just ridiculous. If you want to be safe from the government, stop opposing literally every measure that would make it less dangerous.

Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova Scotian

They love a strong police force and military as long as they're going after the right people.

You know, non white people.

Oh really when?

Personally, I follow the 'police as public' idea, and think that police and civilians should have a sort of 'equal access' to guns (that is, if a weapon is issued to police, it should be legal for civilians to own). So, in this sense I can be said to be pro-police and pro-gun.

Though I suppose I'm probably more pro-establishment than most of the right at this point-and very strongly against armed resistance to the government as it is now. Hell, I'd probably advocate counterrevolutionary militias at this point.

edited 10th Oct '15 3:56:46 PM by Protagonist506

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"

Nah, that's just asking for trouble and is going to encourage vigilantism. Which is how get assholes like the Oath Keepers around.

The state should have a monopoly on force.

Oh really when?