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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#99676: Aug 31st 2015 at 7:03:39 AM

Yeah the current carriers in the Ford class that they have announced the names for are the Ford itself, a new Enterprise, and a new JFK.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#99677: Aug 31st 2015 at 9:49:44 AM

Lexington and Yorktown must be due for a new ride soon.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#99678: Aug 31st 2015 at 9:53:45 AM

I'm confused, are we still talking about politics ?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#99679: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:06:54 AM

Naming carriers can be very political when state pride in on the line.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99680: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:47:19 AM

The big takeaway from this new poll of the Iowa GOP caucuses — from Monmouth University — is that Ben Carson has drawn even with Donald Trump, at 23 percent. And it comes a couple days after another poll showed Carson closing to within five.

That in and of itself is remarkable. Trump's rise was already unbelievable; Carson's is equally so. What's even more amazing, though: The third-place candidate in this new poll is businesswoman Carly Fiorina, who like Trump and Carson has never held public office. In fact, they are the only three hopefuls in the GOP field who can say that, and they are 1-2-3.

In fourth place? Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), who perhaps more than anybody embodies the outsider mentality from within the U.S. Senate.

The combined vote total of those four candidates? 65 percent.

From Two-thirds of Iowa Republicans want a president from outside government.

I wonder if Democrat voters feel similarly? Either way, this is very telling. People are well aware that the people in government now blatantly don't represent the people.

That said, are they gonna do anything about Congress? A great president can barely do shit without at least some support from Congress.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#99681: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:48:43 AM

I wonder if Democrat voters feel similarly? Either way, this is very telling. People are well aware that the people in government now blatantly don't represent the people.

That's a feeling that extends well beyond the US...

Keep Rolling On
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#99682: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:19:55 PM

[up][up] I think that's why Bernie Sanders is doing so well against Clinton despite being an independent, a Senator, and a "socialist."

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99683: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:37:20 PM

But being a Senator, that wouldn't make him an "outsider", would it?

A Republican coworker told me that she would be very afraid if Donald Trump won. And that in a matchup between Trump and Clinton, she would simply not vote.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#99684: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:44:05 PM

She couldn't simply write in "Deez Nuts" like a couple people I work with are planning on doing?

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99685: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:44:38 PM

There's levels of outsider, being an outsider completely or being an outsider to the establishment mainstream. After all, the far right generally hold political office but are considered outsiders, same with the far (depending on ones perspective) left. Look at the UK, Corbyn has been an MP for ages but is still considered an outsider, Farage is an MEP but is likewise considered one.

It's more about beliefs and background then actual current official place in the power structure.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#99686: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:47:06 PM

People seem to be willing to vote for whomever has the appropriate flag pin in their lapel and screams "FREEDOM" the loudest.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#99687: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:58:03 PM

But being a Senator, that wouldn't make him an "outsider", would it?
But he's not ally to either party, so it makes him a political outsider to the parties' power structures.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99688: Sep 1st 2015 at 12:02:26 PM

So we got this Kentucky county clerk who refuses to give out gay marriage licenses because "God's law" and all that.

Never mind that not all Christians think the same way. One Christian can say "God wants this" and another Christian can say "No, God actually wants this", and both can genuinely believe they're following God's law, so it's a meaningless argument.

When something can mean anything, it means nothing. (my quote; hope it catches on)

edited 1st Sep '15 12:02:41 PM by BonsaiForest

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#99689: Sep 1st 2015 at 12:37:25 PM

There really does need to be a "None of the Above" option for voters, especially those who have literally 1 candidate for the position.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#99690: Sep 1st 2015 at 12:43:39 PM

There is. it's called a blank ballot and you don't select anyone.

Not that hard.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#99691: Sep 1st 2015 at 12:54:34 PM

[up]But that only gets results if a quorum of votes is required. Is that the case in local elections?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#99692: Sep 1st 2015 at 12:58:34 PM

Depends on your jurisdiction.

If nothing else it sends the message that this person isn't worth a vote even if they are unopposed.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99693: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:00:05 PM

Not so much, at least over here a blank ballot is counted as spoiled and put in the same catagory as ones where something simply went wrong with the ballot (to many votes, marks that identity the voter, a penis being drawn on it, ect.), while a "none of the above" option would allow for the creation of a specific easily manageable catagory for votes that are trying to say "they all suck".

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99694: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:02:13 PM

Article saying that Hillary Clinton is a bad choice for the left for president

Most Democrats regard the Iraq War as a historic disaster. Clinton voted for that conflict. That hawkishness wasn’t a fluke. She pushed for U.S. intervention in Libya without Congressional approval and without anticipating all that has gone wrong in that country. She favored U.S. intervention in the Syrian civil war as well. Why haven’t Democrats concluded that she has dangerously bad judgment on foreign policy? She certainly hasn’t done anything to distinguish herself in that realm.

Along with the Iraq War, Democrats disdained George W. Bush for the Patriot Act, his expansive views on executive power, and his awful record on transparency. Clinton voted for the Patriot Act. She shows every sign of embracing a similarly expansive view of executive power. And she took extraordinary steps to shield her emails from federal public-records and freedom of information laws.

Then there are her financial backers.

Many Democrats are sympathetic to Occupy Wall Street and to the notion that wealthy special interests on Wall Street are rigging the system by buying off politicians. Who is more bought off than Clinton? It isn’t just her campaign coffers and her family’s foundation that benefit from Wall Street money. Her family’s private accounts are flush with funds from big banks, including at least one that benefitted from her tenure at State and paid her husband seven figures for a speaking gig. It is naive to think that she won’t look out for the interests of Big Finance in Washington.

And on social issues like gay marriage and police misconduct her approach has been to lag public opinion rather than to lead it toward an embrace of progressive reforms.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99695: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:06:03 PM

She doesn't have to be a good choice, just a better choice then a Republican president, which she's managing.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#99696: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:06:39 PM

Didn't most democrats support the invasion of Iraq and the Patriot Act at the time? I mean, from my impression of Bernie Sanders he would have voted against it, but that little excerpt seems to be trying to paint Clinton as worse than other democrats because she supported actions that were by and large popularly supported at the time by Democrats as well.

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Lost in Space
#99697: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:06:59 PM

[up][up][up] And yet, she'd still be better than anyone the Republicans are fielding by several orders of magnitude. There is also reason to believe that her true values are left of her voting record.

edited 1st Sep '15 1:07:08 PM by Fighteer

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Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#99698: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:07:34 PM

Our ballots are completely computerized. Even on local level. You can't draw penises on them and they have to be registered.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#99699: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:08:55 PM

[up][up]What reasons? I don't know know much about her voting record or any actions she might have done that go against it.

edited 1st Sep '15 1:09:21 PM by LSBK

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#99700: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:10:30 PM

From various interviews that have been conducted that indicate that she'd love to be more "liberal" but the Overton window makes it impossible.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

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