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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Wandering Jew
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Assuming Israel doesn't nuke Iran the moment the Iranian government announces there nukes.
I'm more worried about whether Israel, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia can trust Iran, than I am about Iran's trustworthiness.
edited 7th Oct '12 11:34:24 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Gunpla is amazing!
Isn't our military budget bigger than every country combined?
And Romney wants to add 2 trillion!?
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
The notion that America has 2 trillion dollars it can afford to add to the military budget but cannot afford to reduce its mortality rates among its poor, elderly and infirm is deeply, deeply angering.
"Heartless fucking bastards" is a massive understatement for such people.
My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.
Karkadinn
I'm about sixteen minutes in on that O'Reilly Stewart video. Does the moderator ever get less helpless? This is just painful to watch, I keep having to pause it so I have a break to wince.
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
Gunpla is amazing!
No. Bill does continue his habit of interrupting.
That said he gets better toward the end.
They are both friends with each other and respect each other, which is nice I admit.
It just blows my mind. I guess the GOP wants us to be like...the Klingons of the world or something.
edited 7th Oct '12 11:42:44 AM by Thorn14
Wandering Jew
I'm not sure, but it's pretty close.
RNC Chairman Dismisses Third Party Candidate Gary Johnson.
“I think that people understand that they’re not going to throw their vote away,” Priebus said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
It's like there trying to make Gary cry.
edited 7th Oct '12 11:42:56 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
@Braeburn: Israel would be far less likely to use their nukes because their government is less insane than the Iranian government, and the moment they use their nukes, they will get nuked by at least one other nation.
@Kark: She's still better than Jim Lehrer.
@Braeburn: I feel so sorry for Johnson.
scratching at .8, just hopin'
testing new systems to find out they don't work and then spend billions implementing them anyways. That shit has to end.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Wandering Jew
Clearly you have more faith in the Israeli government than I do.
And if Iran goes nuclear most of the Middle East will follow.
35% and I'd cut most of the useless programs in weapon development.
"humvees with helicoptor rotors on the top."
I don't care how much money we waste on this, I want to see Arial humvees in action. We can call them humbees.
Mitt Romney intensifies EPA attacks
edited 7th Oct '12 11:58:14 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
I have faith that the Israeli government, while stupid and not very nice, isn't insane enough to launch nukes. The only government that I'm concerned might actually do that is the North Korean government.
Wandering Jew
I lost that faith after this.
And Romney wants to add 2 trillion!?
Okay back the fuck up. Not that it would surprise me but can someone provide me with a source for that 2 trillion number? That would mean our total military spending would skyrocket to about 3 trillion which would be 60% of the current federal budget (assuming nothing is cut).
As for your first sentence look at this chart. It's not more than the whole world but it is equivalent to the next ten biggest spenders combined.
They probably would do that if Romney won since he wants to go after Iran anyway.
edited 7th Oct '12 12:07:24 PM by Kostya
Gunpla is amazing!
Romney's site said they would add 4% of our GDP to our military.
Which is 2 Trillion.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/10/news/economy/romney-defense-spending/index.htm
Wandering Jew
I'll check for it, but I don't remember Romney saying anything about the military budget.
edited 7th Oct '12 12:12:07 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Gunpla is amazing!
Romney didn't say it, but his site did, and in the debate, Romney never challenged it. The numbers are right there.
It's over the next decade not all at once. I thought you meant the 2014 budget would have a 3 trillion dollar price.
Gunpla is amazing!
Its still spending 2 fucking Trillion Dollars. Money our military says it doesn't even need.
Meanwhile he wants to cut programs like PBS which is .01% of our budget.
edited 7th Oct '12 12:13:15 PM by Thorn14
@Braeburn: Posturing. They won't do anything without the support of the US. They aren't the best, but they aren't stupid or insane.
I know it's a lot and I think he's an idiot but your initial post was somewhat misleading. Either way we need to make the expenses drop instead of just slowing growth.
edit: PBS is less than .01% last I checked. It's literally a drop in the bucket.
edited 7th Oct '12 12:15:38 PM by Kostya
Wandering Jew
@Thorn
True, but the fact that he hasn't been vocal about this makes me doubt his commitment to the idea. I doubt he'll seriously push for it if he encounters a serious and unwavering opposition. Which he probably will.
This is him making promises he doesn't care to keep, in order to earn the far right's support.
Speaking of the Military:
edited 7th Oct '12 12:17:32 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Gunpla is amazing!
Doesn't change the fact its a completely stupid idea.
Doesn't surprise me.
1. Military types are generally more conservative anyway.
2.
Sounds like your typical Romney supporter.
Now if you show me a poll that says most teachers favor Romney then Obama's in trouble.
edited 7th Oct '12 12:17:50 PM by Kostya
Wandering Jew
Not in the slightest.
edited 7th Oct '12 12:18:51 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
The article also noted that soldiers get free healthcare, so Obamacare isn't something they consider a benefit.
If they are, they probably won't use them because the moment they use them, every other nation with nukes will freak out, and use their own nukes on Iran.