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That makes sense; I support a rename.
On a side note, I find the following somewhat amusing: "But if the show features two gay/bi characters with no real connection to each other and no reason to start dating, it's another straight example if they get in bed." (Emphasis mine.) Another word there might be less disconcerting.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
I agree about the name.
I also have to feel that, perhaps inevitable for a Race Trope with Unfortunate Implications, there's some shoehorning going on here by people determined to prove that Hollywood has even more lingering bigotry then it really does. We should try and make sure this only includes relationships characters who are actually a Token Minority, not just main characters who happen to be non-white.
Sorry if that came out as a little ranty, but I'm getting a little tired of this sort of thing. Magical Negro has similar problems, and I don't think it's the only one.
I made an alternate titles crowner here
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Why is it still considered a straight example if two non-white characters hook up? That kind of gives off Unfortunate Implications that it can't be an interracial couple if there isn't a white person involved.
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The Unfortunate Implications are part of the driving force of why this trope first started in Hollywood, and tokenism is Unfortunate Implications in the first place. That being said, I feel that the way it's written is rather accusatory, especially the 'white and not-white' bit, and to be honest I'm not sure how prevalent the 'two minorities of different races' thing is.
Bumping this. Do you think we have a consensus?
It's +6 with the next vote at +1. That's not a lot of votes on there.
And it changed in the time it took to post that, so it's not yet stable.
edited 24th Jul '11 12:42:55 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Was a single-proposition crowner ever made?
No. I think it's because everyone just accepted that the use of "shipping" in this context was flat-out incorrect, since it's not shipping if the creators do it, and this trope is all about what the creators do.
Is the poll stable yet or do you think we need more votes? Also, those four options are just the first four I thought of, and no one added any more options to the poll, so do you think the leading option is good enough?
Edit: I noticed that someone made another suggestion earlier in the thread, so I added it. It most likely won't make a difference now, but you never know.
edited 25th Jul '11 12:04:51 PM by djbj
It's much more clear than it was when I bumped it so I think we can call this one. I'm going to get started on the move.
edited 25th Jul '11 12:46:35 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Page moved. Wiks moved. No discussion or YKTTW to move. Locking her up.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Crown Description:
This page describes a trope used in works, not an audience reaction. It is about the writer pairing two token minoritees together. The person who made this article must have been confused about what the term shipping means, and becuase of the title it has been marked as YMMV even though it isn't. It should be renamed to Token Pairing or Token Couple or something along those lines.