Dishonored

Isn't the procedure supposed to be random in itself? For me it always has been 50/50, then again I didn't use it all the time.

It is random, in that the heart picks secrets randomly for generic NP Cs based on the type of npc your pointing at, but it feels like there's no secret that aren't about how whoever your aiming at isn't human scum.

I've had a few people who turned out to be nice people, but they were vastly outnumbered by people who were secretly the worst people ever.

One wonders how Karnaca even functions.

"She only sells the medicine to those who can afford it. The others get water mixed with turpentine."

Jesus Christ Lady!

''He tries to not think about how beautiful her blood was..."

Well the nice violinist by the carriage station took a dark turn.

Honestly it kinda reached a point where I'm trying hard not to laugh.

"Every week he meets his lover behind her husband's house."

Well Mr. Overseer, by far the least objectionable person I met so far.

It's seriously comical. at least 75% of Karnaca's residents have actually committed murder.

edited 21st Nov '16 8:36:42 AM by Ghilz

By the sounds of it, one would think that a Low-Chaos Emily would just give up and go for the whole "Kill Em All" approach. I mean, she's trying to better the lives of her people, but seriously, there comes a point when you realise that do these people WANT a nice, peaceful, governed life?

It's All Sunny in Karnaca I suppose

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Guitarist: Goddamn mate, how do you keep those strings in check? Mine always go out of tune like damn rust.

laugh track

Violinist: Oh, don't worry about that, all you need is some special polishing, and yer good ta go. And it's so beautiful.

Guiatrist: The polishing oil?

stronger laugh track

Violinist: No- yes! Her blood was so beautiful...

Guitarist: Oswald you're a crazy dog, no wonder your instruments smell wierd!

Violinist: What can I say? I'm too passionate. Gotta oil up with something.

laugh track and cheering

edited 21st Nov '16 8:46:37 AM by UltraWanker

I am not even joking when I say this but when the Black Market salesman is the best person in town then you know something is wrong with this town.

The heart literally said that his worst secret was Holding her hand as she died which is not bad per say just depressing.

I actually saw an youtuber do that. Literally just snap and go on a killing spree after hearing a ridiculous amount of horrible secrets.

edited 21st Nov '16 3:06:23 PM by Ecrivan

Formerly known as Bleddyn And I am feeling like a ghost Resident Perky Goth

Gamespot recommends doing a run with both no powers, and no HUD.

Honestly, I figure the heart is a liar, because no society can function with that kind of crime rate.

Eh I am not sure I mean Wretched Hives did and still do exist like that in real life I think.

Formerly known as Bleddyn And I am feeling like a ghost Resident Perky Goth

I doubt the Heart is lying, since Chaos appropriately increases more quickly if you kill an innocent civilian over someone who, say, drowns puppies for fun, ie: getting rid of the decent folk makes the city turn into a shithole faster than getting rid of the assholes.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.

Let's see, the most violent city (that isn't a war-zone) in the world is Caracas, Venezuela, with a staggering 119.87 murders for every 100,000 people. That's absolutely terrible. But it doesn't mean that a super majority of the population is a murderer (or even a criminal).

If something like 80% of your population is committing aggravated assault or worse...you aren't going to have a population for very long. That isn't sustainable.

For reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

edited 22nd Nov '16 12:52:00 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

I'd point out the list omits places were stats aren't being compiled. Somalia is noticeably not on the list. Also that number predates the current food crisis.

You'd have to find an innocent first. Good luck with that.

edited 22nd Nov '16 1:18:09 PM by Ghilz

At this point I feel like asking Harvey "Where did all my "Sympathetic" homies go?" as a joke. In the meantime, drinking game: Aim the Heart at everyone and take a shot if said NPC is scum.

edited 22nd Nov '16 2:30:38 PM by UltraWanker

I still haven't played Dishonored 2 yet, but based on the first game: Remember that while the Heart doesn't lie, it's also very cynical. In the first game, basically the only person it didn't have something terrible to say about was Emily, for obvious reasons.

I the first game it had more "This person is soldiering through adversity" kind of deal "Or that person has to do hard things to make good of a bad situation". Here it's far more gratuitous.

Mind you, Dishonored 1 had less lines in general for the heart And you can cycle through all of them by repeatedly pointing at the same person. Here it gives ONE secret per person, and it has lists for guards, for overseers, for men and women. There's far more secrets and it takes longer to see them all.

Some exerps of non negatives one from the first game:

1. "Work is never done for the lowly servant."
2. "Her servant wages will not be enough to fix her father's debts."
3. "Only after a long day of work will he return to his home and family."
4. "She starves so that her children can have bread."
5. "That work was the best he could do. And still they weren't satisfied."

Dishonored one also had far more generic statements that weren't about that particular person, like #1. So I guess if you remove those, you do end up with a higher "This person is an asshole" ratio.

edited 22nd Nov '16 3:21:52 PM by Ghilz

It could be possible that the Heart is possibly bugged and giving a lot more negative secrets about the folks of Karnaca then intended (I hear that it's suppose to be 50/50 but from what I have seen it's certainly not that) or maybe the Outsider changed how it worked a bit just to see how your reaction to all these fabricated nasty secrets might be.

Either that or Karnaca is way worse off then Dunwall and that reflects in the kind of people it attracts.

edited 22nd Nov '16 6:02:56 PM by Ecrivan

Formerly known as Bleddyn And I am feeling like a ghost Resident Perky Goth

Can you please link to this hilarity?

edited 24th Nov '16 9:37:05 PM by VeryMelon

The exact time when Galm just decided to massacre the citizens of Karnaca is 35:21 after hearing what that guy does to his child at night.

The funny part is that he was genuinely surprised that the citizens of Karnaca seemed so nice at first. And that was destroyed by most of the comments the heart made. Out of all of them I only counted three citizens that were decent folks and one of them was the Black Market Salesman.

edited 24th Nov '16 11:23:12 PM by Ecrivan

Formerly known as Bleddyn And I am feeling like a ghost Resident Perky Goth

Wow, that is a really understandable reaction to everyone around you being a bastard. I'm only surprised he stopped.

Brave Man.

PC Beta Patch 1.3

Notes:

edited 1st Dec '16 1:02:57 AM by UltraWanker

So, what's the verdict on the patching efforts for the PC version?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.