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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12351: May 25th 2018 at 3:13:30 AM

It did come up exactly once (Remember that when a million players play a game, even very rare circumstances will eventually occur).

I was on one of those very high cliff viewpoints (I think it was in the first DLC) when one of those bounty hunters came by and wanted to fight. I was not directly above him, but it was very high above him, so I tried to use my predator bow, but then the aforementioned camera weirdness happened, making it very hard to aim for my target.

It wasn't exactly straight down that it happened, but outside of some cone, the camera just won't behave properly. Go stand on top of a cliff and try to aim for something at the base of that cliff, and you should see what I mean.

edited 25th May '18 3:14:34 AM by Redmess

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#12352: May 25th 2018 at 3:37:14 AM

To be fair, I can tell from just looking at the predator bow that its probably very finicky and especially code wise that its probably for the best that that thing is as quick as it is and we're not allowed to examine it more thoroughly.

Its one element of gameplay that doesn't feel very polished or stable to me. I wouldn't be surprised if it were added later in development.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12353: May 25th 2018 at 4:00:12 AM

I think you are entirely correct there. Note how arrows that have reached their artificial distance limit will unrealistically and suddenly arc straight down. And this is NOT something that is a rare occurence. The range is sufficiently short that this has happened a lot, sometimes with arrows magically falling short mere inches from a target.

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#12354: May 25th 2018 at 8:42:46 AM

They go farther if you don't use the arrow cam. Honestly, though, the only use for the arrowcam is if there's an enemy that moves quickly. Otherwise, just aim and shoot.

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hegelvonaxel Since: Feb, 2018
#12355: May 29th 2018 at 3:03:34 PM

Does anyone knows name of soundtrack that plays during Smoke over water side quest in Assassin's creed Origins, when you fight in a burned village?

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#12356: May 30th 2018 at 4:37:34 PM

I played through Assassin's Creed Chronicles: Russa. I am very disappointed in the Russian Brotherhood.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#12357: May 30th 2018 at 4:40:09 PM

Do you mean the game in general or the actions of the characters within the confines of the story?

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#12358: May 30th 2018 at 4:52:23 PM

[up] Actions of the characters.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#12359: May 30th 2018 at 4:55:41 PM

Ah.......... what they do?

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#12360: May 30th 2018 at 5:23:47 PM

[up]They wanted to murder Anastasia Romanov for the sake of the Russian Revolution, and extract Precursor secrets from her brain.

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#12361: May 30th 2018 at 5:57:49 PM

We can never just have banal evil in this series, can we?

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#12362: May 30th 2018 at 6:35:16 PM

We could but what would the point of that be?

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#12363: May 30th 2018 at 9:31:19 PM

Significantly more interesting than 'Nah, guys, we have to do this terrible thing BECAUSE THERE'S DATA IN A 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS BRAIN! God, we're not terrible monsters. We have motives in our villainy!'

A big thing about history is that evil is banal. Its there. There are no Motive Rants and Big Bads. When the Nazis exterminated and genocided the Jews, it was not some room full of men laugh evilly at how terrible they are. It was men simply saying 'This is a cancer to society. We're getting rid of it in the most coldly efficent way possible. We are doing good'. You can see the trials at numberg and how, even after everything, the higher ups showed no signs of insanity or mental failure and believed in the totality that they did nothing wrong.

That's horrifying. That is something that lingers in your soul. That is the ultimate evil; evil that is just your daily routine and duty for some "common good". There are things you could really do with that.

Instead, the death of a little innocent girl is... now bigger because "Guys, she has the McGuffin in her head and we need it". Bah.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#12364: May 30th 2018 at 10:40:10 PM

When you out it like that, yeah it's pretty lame.

It goes into how the plots always have to have some grand mastermind controlling things from the shadows cause they need this monumental evil person to blame all their troubles on.

It's very lazy all things considered.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12365: May 31st 2018 at 1:51:00 AM

Well, its also because these games want to portray Drama at a grand historical scale. And the point of pretty much the whole series is that there is no such thing as banal evil, or banal good, for that matter. There is always a purpose and coherence behind it, which can be worked into a storyline.

Basically, the nature of these games is that every historical event is meaningful to the overarching plot in some way. The death of Anastasia was completely meaningless in a historical sense, but the game tries to create meaning by inserting a scifi plot around her death.

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#12366: May 31st 2018 at 2:25:27 AM

And I think maybe Anastasia's death should have been kept that way. We are talking about the death of a little girl after all. There are some historical things that cannot and should not be tied into the Myth Arc.

Like, if we did a WW 2 game, would the series try to make the Holocaust some 'We're building a Piece of Eden out of human sacrifice' plot? That'd be in really poor taste and I think, if they ever did WW 2, they'd need to write the Holocaust off as simply there are terrible people in power who do terrible things and maybe keep that event out of the Myth Arc plot.

There's still plot value in things... just happening. Not because someone 10,000 years ago predicted it and moved the pieces to allow it to happen, but because people are terrible and terrible things will happen.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12367: May 31st 2018 at 2:35:25 AM

Sure, it can be done.

Harry Mulish wrote a book called "The Discovery of Heaven" (pretty well known in the Netherlands), where all of World War II was orchestrated by God's angels JUST to get the right people together for God's master plan to get the Ten Commandments back from humanity and basically call the whole thing with caring for humankind off. The plan requires for a very specific person to be born, so the war needs to happen to get his parents together.

Yeah... God is a dick in that story. He also murders someone with a meteorite for discovering heaven with his telescope.

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#12368: May 31st 2018 at 2:51:49 AM

And... what you described. Yeah, that probably wouldn't go over well. And, considering Ubisoft's track record, though they're getting better, I don't think they have the writing strength to even try and make such a plot idea passable. Not amazing. Just passable.

Not to mention, I think there are far more interesting things you could do with that point in history than 'CONSPIRACY! PEIECES OF EDEN! ONES WHO CAME BEFORE! EVERYTHING IS PREDETERMINED!'. Which is... kind of a stale and boring plot point. History and why things happened the way they did are facinating in their own right and 90% of the series appeal. Let history just happen. You don't need to have an Assassin's Creed explanation for everything.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#12369: May 31st 2018 at 5:21:20 AM

I think it's the nature of the series.

Assassins Creed is a conspiracy fantasy series about the Illuminati vs. the Assassins. If you start pulling the thread then where does it end? What historical person is it appropriate to retcon as part of the Evil League of Evil versus the Good Guys?

What historical atrocity isn't the bad guys versus the ones which are?

And we've already got WW 2 as a plan between Stalin, Churchill, Hitler, and Roosvelt to unite the world into two power blocks.

edited 31st May '18 5:22:38 AM by CharlesPhipps

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#12370: May 31st 2018 at 5:49:04 AM

That's right, WWII has been a conspiracy since AC 2, I think?

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#12371: May 31st 2018 at 5:51:04 AM

Granted, between Clay being insane and Abstergo lying as a matter of policy, the WW 2 plot could be bunk. Syndicate had Churchill as a Brotherhood ally.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#12372: May 31st 2018 at 5:51:56 AM

It's not like Asscreed allies have never changed sides either.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#12374: May 31st 2018 at 10:39:58 AM

Rumor: Assassin's Creed Odyssey leaked by French site; sequel to Origins; set in Ancient Greece; dialogue options; choose between male and female protagonist; out this fiscal year (sometime before March 2019).

Partially [nja]'d.

edited 31st May '18 10:40:17 AM by tclittle

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#12375: May 31st 2018 at 10:41:03 AM

Is it really ancient Greece if it's Greece as part of the Roman empire?

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