Assassin's Creed

Go with Rogue, it's the better of the two IMO.

So the patch for Unity is going up today. Xbone users should wait before downloading it since it takes up 40GB due to installing the whole game again in some cases.

This is the "fix" for the pop in.

Good thing I waited to ask for this until Christmas xD

The Abstergo Intel is so good you guys!

One of the conversations between Melanie and Dr. Gramatica implies that David Bowie is a Sage. I mean come on! That's awesome! :D

Apparently Desmond had at least one Sage in his line as well.

Playing as a Sage would probably explain a lot of things about why they act like they do and etc. Could be fascinating.

Also, has anyone downloaded Patch #4 from last week?

Because, on PC, Unity ACTUALLY ran fine. I had little to no issues with how the game ran. It actually ran smoothly. I have no idea how, but alright.

Now? After the latest patch, it cuts to desktop the second I get to the title screen and becomes unresponsive. This is nothing short of absurd.

A list of Sages

I'd assume #3 is Germain.

edited 22nd Dec '14 3:35:28 PM by rmctagg09

Has anyone read any of the novels and if so are they good? I doubt my PC can run any of the games and I have no clue where my PSP is so I can't play any of the handheld games. There is the cellphone game but I'm not too fond of it from what I did play.

Don't waste your money. Pretty much all of them are just straight-up word-for-word copies of the game in literature form.

Apparently David Bowie was a sage?

Might be a good idea to read the fine print before picking up your free game.

So I just flat out cannot stand Assassins Creed 3. I missed some of the side ones so I don't know the new characters. Not a fan of the plot either, the one in 2012 or the one in the 1900s.

But enough if my bitching and to the point. I got Assassins Creed 4 for Christmas last year. I put off playing it because I thought I'd like AC 3. I've resigned to not play AC 3. Will I understand what's going on in 4 without completing 3? I've heard it's better and takes place on different continuity.

Edit: not trying to incite a flame war or anything. Just stating I did not like AC 3 and why, and asking if AC 4 can be played without completing 3.

edited 23rd Dec '14 8:05:54 PM by washington213

You're good to play IV. Out of curiosity, where did you get in 3 before dropping?

I think it's shortly after you almost get hanged.

edited 26th Dec '14 2:50:42 PM by washington213

I don't have a PS 4 or XB 1, so I can't comment on Unity, but I just finished Rogue, and I think it might be one of the best entries in the series. It's a bit like Majora's Mask, really, in that reusing older assets allowed them to take greater care with their storytelling. They manage to link together all of the eighteenth-century games without any glaring retcons or plot holes, add new dimensions to both the plot of III and the metaplot in general, and tell a compelling and morally-nuanced story, all in six brief chapters.

Wow.

edited 29th Dec '14 3:26:32 PM by LeChevalierDupin

I think the only glaring plot hole with Rogue is that Shay just... leaves. He drops out of the plot. Unity is all about finding De La Serre's killer, but Arno never even questions that his own father was unquestioningly murdered when Arno was a kid?

Or ir just never comes up and answered with a throw away line???

Yeah, it's pretty glaring, and makes me wish Connor, Arno, and Eseosa got the chance to team up to hunt Shay.

I meant without any plot holes in Black Flag or III, but yeah, it is odd that they wouldn't address it in Unity. And I doubt they're going to address it in Victory, unless it's in a prologue or flashback.

Shay would be in his, what? 70-80s by Victory? I don't see the point of it unless he's Templar Grand Master or something.

If we're going by the strict definition of "Victorian era" (1837-1901), he'd be at least 105.

Right, I forget that there's a 20 year gap already from Unity's beginning to the actual story. Victory is estimated to be around 1830s-1850s. Though, I can easily see 1880s just to force a Jack the Ripper thing. Victorian London as it transitions into Industrial Revolution maybe???

So, yeah, he'd be in his 100s. No point in bringing it up.

I'm assuming he's going to just stay a loose end like Connor still is unless there's some DLC for Rogue to tie it all off. Though, maybe he'll appear in Dead Kings??? I can't see it but, hey, it could make a decent plot twist.

I'ed out on info on Victory. So far, really enjoying Rogue. Interesting to see how the Templars cross the gamut of ruthless, to politically conniving, to self serving and genuinely honourable.

Of course, the Assassins are complete nutters in this, having gone back to the Al Mualim way of doing things.

So, yeah, enjoying it. Nice to have "More" AC 4 in a weird way. I also like Shay, even though there's the odd bit where his accent slides across the place. He's idealistic, humble, friendly and loyal.

Yes, it is rather rooting for the bad guy, but the Templars, at least the American division, seem fairly organised and supportive of struture, freedom and order. Yes, Abstergo are clearly Illuminati / MJ 12 fascists, but their older counterparts seem fairly reasonable.

I have yet to run into Haytham, of course...

I'd say the Assassins in both Unity and Rogue actually have betrayed some of the original concepts of "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" given that they are operating as power brokers who are proactively seeking to control things as they see fit, not much unlike The Templars. It's just towards a different end when The Assassins at the beginning of the series were more reactive in that they only neutralized those who were negatively impacting the world. That and, least from looks of some things but again not perfect, more of the proactive actions comes from just enabling others who can guide the world towards certain things. This is just me though. Something that's irritating me now is the fact that it seems The Creed changes a lot game to game.

On a different note, I just recently got Unity's novel and from what I learned, I'll be learning a lot about Elise's philosophy and goals in this. Anybody want to know what I uncover as things go along?

Considering how little Elise actually talks about herself and her Templar ideals, please do.

From a storytelling perspective, I actually really love how the Templars and Assassins trade moral highground depending on the century. Sometimes the Templars are noble and realistic—Harvey Dent-ish, I suppose. Sometimes the assassins are benevolently pragmatic and progressive, champions of freedom and free thought. Other times the Templars are corrupt politicians and the Assassins are like bitter anime clubbers with murder instead of Pocky.

...is the Unity novel written any better than the ACIII tie-in? That one had barf-worthy prose.

I need to replace my YLOD PS 3 to play Rogue. Schade, as it seems like I'd prefer it to Unit. Not that I hate Unity...but I still haven't had any urge to finish the main story since DAI plopped into my lap.

edited 4th Jan '15 12:57:37 AM by Phoenixflame