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Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4651: Oct 21st 2012 at 4:38:40 PM

Both are grey, but Templars are darker grey. Rodrigo Borgia and Majd Addin are the only black characters.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4652: Oct 21st 2012 at 5:48:34 PM

I don't think any of the marks in II were grey. They were pretty firmly in it for themselves.

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#4653: Oct 21st 2012 at 5:50:09 PM

Well, Dante Moro wasn't really evil at all, but the others were all black.

edited 21st Oct '12 5:50:53 PM by rmctagg09

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4654: Oct 21st 2012 at 5:54:01 PM

Dante was a special case, yeah. But he was part of a double mark, with someone who was evil.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4655: Oct 21st 2012 at 5:55:50 PM

In my eyes, Rodrigo Borgia was the only black character. He was only in it for power.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4656: Oct 21st 2012 at 5:56:44 PM

So were the others. They just didn't realize the full extent of it, nor that Rodrigo would gladly stab each of them in the back through the throat for it.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4657: Oct 21st 2012 at 5:58:26 PM

But would you agree that Rodrigo was the most evil?

edited 21st Oct '12 5:58:36 PM by Krystoff

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
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#4658: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:00:52 PM

Maybe equal with Cesare.

Incest is such a quick way to make someone a villain, isn't it?

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Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4659: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:03:16 PM

[up] Cesare was too pathetic though. I would say that the only character that can match Rodrigo is Majd Addin.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4660: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:04:20 PM

Rodrigo was the most evil because he led the others to believe that he intended to share the power with them, when meant to do no such thing. The others are only better on the grounds that they had a loyalty to him.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4661: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:05:49 PM

[up] Others really believed in the Templar cause though. Rodrigo's intention was purely power.

Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#4662: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:10:52 PM

Now that I think of it, I think Cesare might've had good motives... just... so incredibly twisted by crazy. I think he did want to unify people, but he was just so violent and didn't care about the individual people.

But I don't know. :/

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4663: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:11:22 PM

No, I really don't think they did. Part of II's theme was how far the Templars have strayed from their original goal in the 300 years between Altair and Ezio.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4664: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:12:17 PM

Yes, but Prince Ahmet really did believe in it.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4665: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:16:13 PM

I'm only talking about the marks in II.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4666: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:19:34 PM

[up] Okay. So, I think Borgia is the one who corrupted them all though.

And I am really interested who will be the main villain in number 3? I hope that maybe King George III.

edited 21st Oct '12 6:21:17 PM by Krystoff

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4667: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:20:59 PM

No, the database is pretty clear that they're just terrible people.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4668: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:22:10 PM

[up] Maybe Marco Barbarigo. He was pretty much raping Dante's wife, and none of it was related to his duties as a Templar. Orsi Brothers seemed also like a nasty piece of work.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4669: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:22:54 PM

The entire Pazzi and Barbarigo clans were pretty evil, even without Borgia's help.

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4670: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:23:58 PM

Yeah I agree. Uberto was not a nice guy either. And again, who do you think will be the main villain in the third game?

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4671: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:29:25 PM

I believe it's implied that Uberto was being threatened by the Pazzi. Still a dick, though.

And I'm not sure. Probably not King George III. I anticipate that Connor's loyalties will be different by the end of the game, and you'll mostly be fighting the Colonists.

That said, I think the final boss might be done in the real world anyway.

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
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#4672: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:34:39 PM

I just want Lafayette to be a French Assassin.

And for George Washington to be more than an Assassin/Templar.

It's not over. Not yet.
Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#4673: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:39:51 PM

I hope that we will finally be fighting Vidic and maybe also his boss with whom he exchanged those emails.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#4674: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:46:16 PM

I kind of want Washington to be uninvolved with the Templar/Assassin war, even though I know he will be.

Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4675: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:49:29 PM

Really can't see the Templars as truly gray. "Templars are always quick to talk of peace, but slow to concede power" sums up reason for it ultimately. Not all Templars are purely evil, but we've often seen what they consider the proper ways about bringing peace are.

[up] Washington had a Piece of Eden. Going to be pretty impossible to see that desire happen.

edited 21st Oct '12 6:50:05 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

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