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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#46401: Feb 19th 2017 at 10:34:14 PM

Holy f*ck, that wound up being huge. But the final chapter for Single Point of Failure is drafted. And it's big. @.@

EDIT: Needs more epilogue. Already thinking on ways to expand the ending.

EDIT EDIT: Might also be a good idea to put a chapter break into it and split it in two, either when Cardinal activates the Element of Magic or when Twilight recovers her identity.

edited 20th Feb '17 7:43:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#46402: Feb 19th 2017 at 11:02:30 PM

Fucking hell man, you are voracious.

Kurush from Stockholm Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Desperate
#46403: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:15:53 AM

A little tip: Triple posting is considered highly bad manners. Same for double posting. It might be a good idea to wait a bit after posting your first one so others can chime in.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#46404: Feb 20th 2017 at 5:44:53 AM

Normally, I would agree with you, but this thread moves at a speed best described as tectonic. I would consider ~36 hours to fulfill the criteria of "a bit".

edited 20th Feb '17 5:45:37 AM by TobiasDrake

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#46405: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:43:29 AM

And you had something significant to post, I think it's excusable.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#46406: Feb 20th 2017 at 11:49:22 AM

edited 20th Feb '17 11:50:19 AM by TheHandle

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#46407: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:53:12 PM

Yeah. If more than half a day has passed, I'd rather see a double or triple post so that I get a watchlist notification, otherwise there's a 90% chance I'll just totally miss the edit.

Anyway, new draft finished, way too damn late. Been feeling under the weather lately, which has hosed my already slow pace. Good thing I had a holiday to muscle through things with. >.>

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#46408: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:16:13 PM

I have nothing against doubleposting as long as it's a substantial update.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#46409: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:16:46 PM

But if all you're doing is adding something you forgot to add to the original post, you should just edit the original post.

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Queen of Good Things, Honest
#46411: Feb 20th 2017 at 5:15:00 PM

Working on getting the draft ready for publishing, but I wanted to share some original version notes.

The first version of the confrontation with Cardinal was more heavily focused on Twilight and Applejack. As I mentioned before, Cardinal was original envisioned as a sort of romantic predator, using his trickiness to try and steal Applejack away. Subverting the Elements of Harmony was still part of the plot, but he was also more directly trying to break up Applejack and Twilight so he could obtain "the heart of Magic" from Applejack; a bit of romantic symbolism that would let him control the Element of Magic without Twilight.

Learning about Sunset Shimmer allowed me to do away with the Heart of Magic concept, since she establishes that you don't actually need to be Twilight to control the Element...provided the other five aren't working against you, that is. I never intended it when I started but, in a way, Cardinal's endgame goal kinda became a more effective version of Sunset's.

The idea of Cardinal as nefarious competition died with the Heart of Magic idea and he became more of a general manipulator. At the same time, I realized that the other four members of the Mane Six needed to be more directly a part of the conclusion. It was thematically essential; this is a profound female empowerment setting and here is this male character whose entire M.O. is coming in and taking away their power. The climax needed to be about all six of them taking the power back.

The Cardinal's World sequence was a later addition, because I needed it to fill a hole in the climax. The next version had Twilight and Applejack reconciling, followed by Applejack making her pleas to each mind-controlled pony in the same order she does in the existing version. Problem was, Cardinal was just sort of standing there like a doof letting this happen and it's like, you've got the Elements of Harmony, why aren't you stopping this? There needed to be time when the mares could talk away from him, and that meant he had to win here.

Twilight's counterspell was the last thing added to the story. Originally, Twilight was going to try to steal back the crown with her levitation magic when Cardinal obtained it, to which Cardinal would use the Elements to shut down spellcasting entirely, remarking, "First rule of Cardinal's world: no magic." Later, when the Elements were restored, Cardinal would attack Twilight but the spell would fizzle, prompting Twilight to remind him of his First Rule in an Ironic Echo.

It was a nice Hoist by His Own Petard moment but, as with giving the Six a more direct role, it occurred to me as I was writing that it wasn't good enough. He needed to be hoist by Twilight's Petard. For the same thematic reasons, it wasn't enough that Cardinal fail to harm her; she needed to beat him.

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Element of Class
#46412: Feb 20th 2017 at 5:22:15 PM

@Santos: I don't know, but reading the related links of Wikipedia makes me want to use "James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher" in Ask Hoops And Dumbbell.

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MetaFour Since: Jan, 2001
#46413: Feb 20th 2017 at 5:51:25 PM

@Santos: Yes, at least two.

One of them was a Feghoot, as in the story was nothing more than a setup to use that specific sentence as the punchline. I don't remember the name.

The other was "Scootatitle", where one gag involves Twilight using that little factoid as a "get rid of Pinkie for a few hours" card:

Twilight’s jaw dropped. She rubbed her head for what felt like the umpteenth time that hour. I don’t have time for this. Perhaps it’s time for the trump card I've been saving for months. “Psst, Pinkie, come here,” Twilight motioned to Pinkie Pie in a conspiratorial whisper.

“Oh, what’s that?” Pinkie asked.

“Let me tell you a secret,” Twilight said in as loud a whisper she could muster. “Did you know that thanks to the many definition of the word ‘buffalo’, you can say it as many times in a row as you want and it’ll still be a grammatically proper sentence?”

Pinkie Pie’s mane and tail, and her eyes went wide with delight. “Oh my gosh, really?”

“Yes, really,” Twilight affirmed. “Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo works, but it can also be said a hundred times in a row, maybe even a thousand. Why don’t you go, uh, find Trixie? I bet she’d be thrilled to hear it!”

“You’re on!” Pinkie Pie said. Suddenly, she hopped away, but instead of landing on her feet, she landed on her tail. Her tail acted like a pogo stick, springing Pinkie Pie back up for her next hop, and the crazy Earth pony was suddenly out of sight with a high jump that cleared the clouds.

“Oh, finally. Sorry Trixie, but you’re going to have to suffer for that. I don’t think I could take anymore Pinkie today,” Twilight said.

SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#46414: Feb 20th 2017 at 7:17:44 PM

[up]

Oh yeah, I actually remember the Scootatitle one.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#46415: Feb 20th 2017 at 8:02:22 PM

Alright, that's it. Final chapter to Single Point of Failure is published. This story is officially complete.

Special thanks to Meta Four for all the help he gave me that made this story not entirely suck. tongue

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YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#46416: Feb 20th 2017 at 9:18:20 PM

Anyone else read Jay the Brony's continuity? I just found it's got its own page now.grin

edited 20th Feb '17 9:18:43 PM by YamiVizziniX

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#46417: Feb 21st 2017 at 7:45:25 PM

Planned conversations during the Summit:
*Between a changedling and a Solar Guard. The changeling is complaining about not looking threatening anymore but concludes that the ponies must be pretty used to this already. Then a Lunar Guard thestral positions himself next to them and the changeling goes, "Oh, C'MON!"
*Between Starlight and Luna. Luna picks up on Starlight's doubts of her worthiness towards redemption. Luna claims that she and Discord were worse but Starlight points out she might have actually killed the world once. Luna points out that this was entirely by accident and, besides, didn't actually happen because time travel. A discussion upon the practical applications of ethics on time travel ensues. Conclusion: Don't think about it too hard and you're small-time, Starlight, get over yourself. Edit: Well, this is Luna's conclusion, Starlight doesn't argue too hard on account of princess but still carries malingering doubts.

edited 21st Feb '17 7:46:15 PM by God_of_Awesome

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#46418: Feb 21st 2017 at 7:56:20 PM

Actually, the argument between whether Starlight or Luna is worse is a potentially pretty interesting one.

I mean, Luna's plans may have potentially resulted in global extinction of all life, but she didn't get nearly that far. In fact, aside from being a little bit spooky, she did very little to actually hurt anyone. What, two guards, and her sister? Not a huge roster. On top of that, at no point did she actively mean to cause harm—she just wanted to be loved.

On the other hand, while the scope of her actions was much smaller, Starlight's actions were much more direct, and had a distinct, measurable impact on... give or take maybe two dozen ponies? We got a look at some of the methods he used to achieve and maintain that control: Isolation, propaganda, and more. And she meant to do all of those things. Sure, she might have thought it was for the best in the long run, but she still caused deliberate and direct harm.

So yeah, Luna might have had more potential harm, but at the tail end of a conversation about how "Time Travel doesn't count", it rings kind of hollow to claim that potential can compete with actual actions.

Of course, by those metrics Discord still has them both beat by a pretty wide margin. And he's still a pretty major dick even if he's no longer actively evil.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#46419: Feb 21st 2017 at 8:13:48 PM

Damn plot bunnies! Now I'm wanting to start writing a pirate story! >_< I even got a guy drawn as a reference!

This is him. His name's Sea Salt. Though I have no real idea of a plot xD

edited 21st Feb '17 8:22:58 PM by theLibrarian

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#46421: Feb 22nd 2017 at 8:27:54 AM

Rought Draft of The Summit: Chapter 3 is up. I think I'll call it "Baby Talk".

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#46423: Feb 23rd 2017 at 6:47:10 AM

Sad! Sick!

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#46424: Feb 23rd 2017 at 7:02:13 AM

I might give it a read this weekend for the blog. Prediction: the humor will mainly come from regurgitating memes.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#46425: Feb 23rd 2017 at 9:30:55 AM

I will accept this as a thing that exists only if it means Donald Trump is replaced by Princess Celestia in our world. Never before have we needed a defictionalization so badly.

edited 23rd Feb '17 9:31:26 AM by TobiasDrake

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