Islamic cultural terrorism

I got bored and kinda sick about 2.36 in. As a muslim I say... "Wha..?" Well, I mean, it is just one guy, so who gives a damn about his opinion. '40% want sharia?' I don't where the hell he gets his facts from, but I'm gonna say he got them from Reuters. Everyone loves buzzwords! I'm not saying Islamophobia is not a real thing, but there was a BBC Panorama documentary once that had a muslim couple move into the outskirts of a city. They had hidden cameras, and on average, they got racially abused about three or four times a day.

Haven't all monotheistic religions got some dark clause about pillaging and shit? Doesn't the Bible have a bit about slavery? I don't really care much. This guy can say what ever he wants. I disagree with what he says, but by gum, I'd fight a war to ensure he can still say it. Even so, he Did Not Do The Research. Contrary to belief, people interpret the Qu'ran in different ways - one guy even managed to find a verse that predicted George Bush winning the election. It's the word of god, yes, but the word 'oh' can be interpreted in many ways also.

I don't support violence. I have met many people in my short time on this planet, and most of the time, people have good intentions and want to get on with their life. I've travelled to many a place. I have met many a religious person, and not one is a crazy nutcase. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with Shariah and all that jazz but I don't agree with street gangs, domestic abuse, etc., that we have here. Al Qaeda are outcasts, the Taliban are nutters, and Osama Bin-Laden was wanted dead by many muslim people too.

Do a poll of Christians, especially in the US, see how many of them want Ten Commandments to be the foundation of the law.

I think we're being really paranoid about Muslims in the West.

I don't think we're being paranoid enough about what Iran, Palestien, and a number of Mid-East organizations are up to and what they're saying.

No, see. the thing is. People already assume all of those countries are muslim, and therefore terrorists.

What really bugs me is how most of the nation isnt paranoid at all about Israel despite how often they've backstabbed us just because of "Its the holee land !!!11!!1!"

edited 17th Jun '11 9:29:23 AM by Midgetsnowman

Isreal needs a good slap too.

But at least they're not filling their boradcasts with six year old girls moved to tears by their recitations of poetry about the beauty of wearing an explosive vest.

Nah. They mostly just do everything in their power to encroach further on the west bank and give the palestinians ample good reasons to hate them.

They're both antagonizing eachother, but at least Isreal waits until citizens are near their final height to start indoctrinating them.

It's the lesser of two evils, although not by much.

If the UN actually had a pair, I'd say they should occupy the whole area and set up one secular state.

That video is booooring ... I got tired after two minutes of straw men on "political correctness" and accusations of islamophobia. Yes, some idiot leftists might cry "Islamophobia", but he's trying to give the impression that he's a lone rebel defying the politically correct orthodoxy by criticizing Islam, whereas everybody criticizes Islam and among non-Muslims, only a minority of loons whines about Islamophobia.

It's OK to criticize Islam, but don't go pretend that makes you a daring rebel. Maybe I'm misinformed and this fantasyland where you get condemned for criticizing Islam really exists, but so far I've only seen it in the imagination of right-wingers.

(Not that left-wingers don't rant and rage against imaginary right-wingers either)

I agree. Why don't we just return to the borders determined in the 40s/50s by the UN: Jerusalem and surrounding area to become an international, UN-mandated zone, to which only the UN holds ownership, Israel move back and stop encroaching on Palestinian territory, job done. Of course, doing it would require a lot of persuasion of Netanyahu (or whatever), and considering the past few years, the best Obama has got him to do is to go at a slower pace, and that didn't last long.

@OP; The guy has a few good points.

Care to elaborate?

Of the top of my head:

• public criticism of Islam is political suicide
• the Koran actually sections that pertain to peace
• the word islamaphobia being used to "shame" people or to silence them
• you're not a racist if you object to somebody's religion or want one set of laws for your country

@Kino: maybe in your area of the world. here in the midwest bible belt of Missouri, being even slightly sympathetic to Muslims/Nonchristians/progressives is pretty much political suicide.

edited 17th Jun '11 11:57:25 AM by Midgetsnowman

Indeed, it's quite trendy to play the "OMG you're accusing me of X, how dare you!" card as a pre-emptive defense.

In which part of the world? I've heard and read way more right wingers complaining about the politically correct orthodoxy than accusations of Islamophobia.

Do you have any examples of someone publicly critcizing Islam in a reasonable way (i.e. not being completely stupid or racist), and getting flak for it (as opposed to simple disagreement)?

edited 17th Jun '11 12:18:24 PM by SlightlyEvilDoctor

The western world.

Any examples worth pointing to? People whose careers were ruined merely because they criticized Islam?

Not specific enough, the Western world is varied as hell.

Around here, I think it's a mixture. Criticising Islam is pretty common, but accusations of Islamophobia aren't that unusual.

Rep. King's career is heading for a downward spiral.

edited 17th Jun '11 12:21:33 PM by Kino

I am not sure what the average is in California but seeing as it's a liberal state... Where I live though the opinions vary. I've seen people who very obviously hate Islam and want Muslims to be forced out of the country or forced to convert to another religion that they deem "safer" (this is normally Christianity). Or become atheist. I've also seen people who are very much in support of Muslims and wished that they weren't treated the way they are and that people didn't hate them. Sometimes to the point of being very angry and aggressive about it. Then you have the people who just wish everyone would STFU and stop caring about the whole thing.

edited 17th Jun '11 12:22:21 PM by Aondeug

There is a difference between criticism and using ones political office to single out the religion for potential prosecution.

And how was he singling out a religion for potential prosecution?

That hearing didn't include Christian extremism now did it? Or Zionism? And the hearing in question was to determine how to "deal" with it. Considering that people only have past precedent to point to, thats extremely close to how Mc Carthyism came into being and THAT is why King would be in any trouble.

That's because we're not at war with any Christin or Jewish countries at the moment; the hearing was a result of the times we're in right now.