General Looney Tunes / Assorted WB Animation (that isn't DC) Thread.

There's still several Harman-Ising era Merrie Melodies shorts on Max.

Buddy also had one short on Max briefly with Mr. and Mrs. Is the Name.

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Apr 11th 2024 at 12:12:10 PM

I have never watched Bugs Bunny Builders, so I can't tell if your comment is genuine or sarcasm.

As for Space Jam 2, it's Bugs who pulls off a Heroic Sacrifice, so calling Lola the film's most important character is strange.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

A little bit of both. Even if the show is made for preschoolers, you would have expect Bugs Bunny Builders to have Bugs front in center. Bugs can't not be himself in a violent-free world. I just think that the execs in charge of various parties wanted to have these checkboxes, make Lola an empowered leader and have Tweety the focus in a number of episodes because of the synergy 80th birthday tie-in.

Space Jam: A New Legacy wanted to make Lola an important character alongside Bugs. The marketing, even casting Zendaya at the expense of not promoting the other voice actors, really showed that.

Edited by rwinger24 on Apr 11th 2024 at 9:36:02 AM

At least Jeff Bergman and Eric Bauza got billed in the opening credits with the other big stars of the film. Billy West and Dee Bradley Baker didn't even get that with the first film.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

Space Jam: A New Legacy really defined this era of corporate culture involving the Looney Tunes, under Ann Sarnoff and Tom Ascheim before the great Zaslav takeover.

The brand is being viewed as an equivalent to Disney’s Mickey Mouse.

Outside of Looney Tunes Cartoons (and hopefully Coyote vs. ACME), the brand has been put into a lens where they are more focused on positive values and representation. Good moral compasses as opposed to being funny and entertaining.

Tiny Toons Looniversity can be considered funny but it’s more basic in comparison to Tiny Toon Adventures. That’s what happens when you are more concerned with entertaining kids. Bugs Bunny Builders was part of Cartoon Network’s previous objective to entertain preschoolers as well as empower girls (Lola Bunny front and center).

After all current projects, I suggest they should put the brand on hiatus, re-evaluate the demographics, and realize that there is a general market for Looney Tunes that can entertain adults and children.

Bugs feels more like the main Looney Tune than Lola in Space Jam A New Legacy. He is the one with the most emphasized relationship with Lebron James. Lola only feels as prominent as everyone that isn't Bugs.

They're never gonna do a Looney Tunes hiatus. Disney never did a Mickey and Friends hiatus.

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Apr 11th 2024 at 2:00:51 PM

There was a hiatus between Loonatics Unleashed and The Looney Tunes Show. If there was a hiatus, I would imagine it would be for TV shows based on the Looney Tunes franchise.

I see that Tiny Toons Looniversity does use slapstick and visual gags, but is it funny enough? If not, you can consider it boring.

Looney Tunes characters are at their best when they are being pitted against each other in chaos or spoofing any kind of genre. They have been going the Space Jam route for years where they are forcing them to team up together and they are only used as marketing tools in the safest way possible.

That’s how you get projects like Baby Looney Tunes, Tiny Toons Looniversity and Bugs Bunny Builders. The Looney Tunes Show modernized them in a sitcom setting but their slapstick had to be taken away to account the sub-genre and style.

Duck Dodgers, New Looney Tunes and Looney Tunes Cartoons are the only projects within the past 20 years that understand the essence and DNA of the characters and the worlds they inhabit.

There were still video games and theme park stuff for Looney Tunes between 2007 (Loonatics Unleashed ending) and 2011 (The Looney Tunes Show premiering).

I get that. Even with these small projects and recycling old content, I am not sure if WBD is willing to spend the money for a new show now. I’m alright if we get a drought in new TV shows. We’ll still have the comics, video games and everything else in between.

Looney Tunes needs to be handled by artists and cartoonists who love the brand but are not succumbed to the pressure and notes ordered by corporate powers, or in this case, handled by an inexperienced writer or producer who rather put their own stuff rather than listen to what the fans want.

It’s not just Looney Tunes. DC is also in an identity crisis too. I rather have the brand go on a hiatus in the case where no new shows get produced until they find a cartoonist/showrunner passionate enough to retool and modernize the characters by developing a show that honors its DNA, not cancel or erase what came before.

Edited by rwinger24 on Apr 11th 2024 at 2:46:57 AM

When they had Bosko on the original Tiny Toon Adventures they lampshaded the fact that he looked like (in their iteration) a non-specific anthropomorphic cartoon animal (kinda like the Warner siblings in Animaniacs—actually, he looks more like them than anything else). They even had Plucky flat out ask him "And just what are we exactly? A tree slug?"

Credit Tiny Toon Adventures for actually doing a decent story with Bosko and Honey. Heck, they managed to bring back Foxy, Roxy, and Goopy Gear from "Lady Play Your Mandolin"—the first actual Looney Tune to bear the name—too.

I honestly never noticed Bosko was a toon doing black face,but it would explain why they've buried him

his introduction I've posted below makes that more obvious

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 11th 2024 at 10:44:58 AM

New theme music also a box

“Fields of Honey” and “Two Tone Town” are two very excellent episodes of Tiny Toon Adventures from what I've heard.

If they want to use that iteration of Bosko and Honey, it would be so fun if writers decide to do a rubber house style episode in the future.

It would be cool if Bosko and Honey or Foxy and Roxy came across Bugs and Lola Bunny. Maybe Bugs can finally solve the issue involving how Lola is handled (meta-wise, she has no set personality as she is always being experimented.)

Edited by rwinger24 on Apr 11th 2024 at 3:28:28 AM

Would be nice for them to acknowledge the earlier characters more often. Heck aside from Porky, none of the pre-1937 (the year Daffy Duck and Egghead were introduced) characters are acknowledged with no Bosko, Buddy, or Beans.

Considering the Ruegger/Speilberg shows managed to use Bosko, Honey, and Buddy in interesting ways, it's not impossible to use them today. Especially since Bosko's the one who started it all. Without Bosko, the likes of Porky Pig, Bugs Bunny, and Daffy Duck would never exist.

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Apr 11th 2024 at 6:19:06 AM

I remember when Egghead showed up in a Cartoon Network ad... and was in black-and-white for some reason.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

IIRC they brought Gabby back for Wabbit, though that was more than a few years ago at this point.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

And while not from the early years, the gremlin from Falling Hare turned up in Looney Tunes Cartoons, basically dispelling the myth that WB wasn't allowed to use him.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

That's not true, but what is true is that Disney didn't want any other studio making cartoons about gremlins because they had their own in production (the one Roald Dahl came up with). The Looney Tunes were too far in production to stop, but Disney made them remove the word "gremlin" from their titles.

So the cartoons originally called Bugs Bunny and the Gremlin and Gremlins from the Kremlin became Falling Hare and Russian Rhapsody.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

Not the last time the Looney Tunes were involved with Gremlins.

And yes, Joe Dante did direct this and Looney Tunes: Back in Action.

Joe Dante was a Looney Tunes fan even before he directed Back in Action, which could explain the characters' presence at the beginning and end of the film.

Watched the JLA / RWBY crossover the other day. I quite liked it. Very fun, and even though I'm not at all familiar with RWBY's characters and concepts, it did a great job introducing me to them.

Favorite part has to be when a couple of Flash's villains teams up with the heroes, though. Because I love me some Rogues exposure.

Also, the Justice League's redesigns for the RWBY world were nearly all really dope. Especially Superman's Conner Kent inspired outfit.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

They don't do much acknowledging of their earliest characters because the vast majority of people have never seen or heard of their earliest characters.

Since Shoobedobah posted someone's fanart earlier in this thread, maybe I suppose sharing one of my own wouldn't hurt as well...

This Powerpuff Girls/Looney Tunes crossover comic takes place after the events of the former show's classic episode "Buttercrush". It was first posted on DeviantArt five years ago and is still one of my personal favorite comics.

Edited by aldrinejoseph25 on Apr 13th 2024 at 7:07:01 AM

https://boxofficeturkiye.com/film/the-day-the-earth-blew-up-a-looney-tunes-movie--2017297

https://filmspot.pt/filme/the-day-the-earth-blew-up-a-looney-tunes-movie-870360/

I am seeing that The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie is being released in other countries including Russia localized as "Looney Tunes: Space Invasion" (all Fall release is being planed).

https://x.com/animatr0n/status/1773445847885217896

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUo0TUCgj9Y Trailer for the second season of Velma got released. And that it's coming out in 10 days.

I apologize about my paranoia about Pepé Le Pew being “retired” or banned. Just obsessing about the future is unhealthy.

I just feel like whatever gets approved of or decided by the studio execs no matter what the project, it is always going to be something divisive. You can not make beloved projects with any IP as they once were in today’s age. Part of me thinks that if they did anything not to their standards, it would be considered a breach of contract and this grounds for a written warning in HR. No creative wants to be in a toxic work environment.

It is projects like Velma, Tiny Toons Looniversity, and even My Adventures with Superman that only get approved because some middle and upper management exec wanted to check the right boxes and quotas.

I don’t even care about Velma but it really damaged the Scooby-Doo! name and the executives refused to include him because he is considered a kids IP.

The studio system has gotten worse and worse. And if they won’t change their ways listening to the customer, they are just gonna dig themselves into a bigger hole.