Disney characters ruin Kingdom Hearts?

What are your opinions on Disney characters being in Kingdom Hears? I've heard some people say that Disney characters should not be in the game and that the game should make up its own original characters.

edited 4th Jun '11 8:10:08 AM by Enlong

Disney is Kingdom Hearts.

Anyone who says this is quite silly.

What? I've heard that said about FF characters(which makes a tinsy bit of sense) but...Disney? Without Disney the series wouldn't exist. And if they just removed them then there'd be nothing to distinguish KH from a Final Fantasy subseries.

Really, who says that?

edited 4th Jun '11 8:12:43 AM by Kostya

Pretty much that. One of the main features of the series is that it uses Disney worlds for it's levels, in most cases anyways.

Eh. If it was better at handling the worlds, they'd be a benefit.

edited 4th Jun '11 8:25:30 AM by AllanAssiduity

Considering how bloated and convoluted the original stuff has become, I think the Disney stuff is the best thing left in the series.

Pretty much this. When I first played KH I was expecting a full-on Disney RPG. What I instead got was a typical Square game with a bunch of Disney characters arbitrarily tacked on, and written by somebody who to all appearances didn't know the first thing about said characters and made absolutely no attempt to hide this.

That, coupled with that the game was boring as shit, crushed all interest I had in the series henceforth.

I've only heard that KH focuses too much on original characters. Personally, I don't care much either way.

But nobody can convince me that the Final Final characters were more than an after-thought.

Moe Dantes, get out of my brain!

By which I mean that I agree with them completely. Except I bought the second game.

edited 4th Jun '11 9:57:20 AM by Nicknacks

The only problem I have with Disney in Kingdom Hearts is the fact that the levels are often rehashes of the original movies. The worst being the horrible DS game were "memory loss" led to rehashing the rehashes. And again, Disney IS Kingdom Hearts with a couple of Final Fantasy characters tossed in.

Yeah, the Disney stuff is like half of the appeal. The other half is FF as an action RPG. I personally wouldn't change it much besides making the worlds more like extensions of their movie incarnations. Let them grow too.

Disney is Kingdom Hearts, plus some FF characters,

And is awesome

Kingdom Hearts is nothing without Disney.

Honestly, I'd prefer Kingdom Hearts without the Final Fantasy characters. Disney characters are the more memorable ones with the colorful worlds and characters.

The Disney elements are the whole appeal of Kingdom Hearts. Though, one thing I wish they would stop doing is reusing old worlds so much, particularly in the handheld games.

The Disney characters, music, and worlds were one of the only things I liked about the games. Most of my complaints have been voiced by Edmond and others in this very thread.

And a complaint that they didn't voice...Most of the characters I like from Final Fantasy games haven't made appearances. Hell some of the games I like haven't even had anyone show up from their series. Like 5. Then again most of the ones I like are spinoffs like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Most if not all of the FF characters that have popped in so far come from entries in the series I dislike too...I can think of one from one I like. Setzer. At least as of 2 anyway. I abandoned it after that due to these issues I have.

edited 4th Jun '11 11:49:52 AM by Aondeug

Seconding the issue with the FF cameos. More variety would be nice. I'd love to see Shantotto or Prishe show up in the next one.

I would have preferred a bigger focus on Disney and less of a focus on Final Fantasy (ideally, none whatsoever). This series made me realize how utterly generic FF characters really are.

edited 4th Jun '11 12:07:05 PM by Schitzo

Yeah, and Nomura doesn't have the "it doesn't feel right to use characters I didn't design" excuse any more, considering his work with Dissidia. If another character from VII makes it in over GILGAMESH, I will personally travel to Japan, find Nomura, and deliver a Goblin Punch to his face (and yes, I checked, my level and his are equal).

So, I take it I'm the only one here who likes both aspects of the franchise?

No, I like both all three types of characters. Some pre-FF 7 characters would be good though.

(Up x 3): Next game is gonna star Cait Sith just to spite you. trollface.jpg

edited 4th Jun '11 12:34:06 PM by BetaRay

Then expect pictures of my fist hitting Nomura's face to go up that next day.

Oh, and I actually like both aspects of the series. They just need to be better integrated into the story. The Disney worlds were just... there in II.

edited 4th Jun '11 12:47:26 PM by X2X

Honestly, I play Kingdom Hearts for the original story and gameplay. The Disney characters rather detract from the experience for me, nostalgia and all. This may sound stupid, but I'd prefer more FF than Disney, or even better, almost all OC with only cameos from both FF and Disney.