First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
Ohhh that would make sense.
Also, even beyond the alt-right's admiration for east asia's partiarchal culture, racists can and do make individual "exceptions" for people outside their race. People are complex and racism is largely irrational so you easily end up with these kinds of contradictions. That's sort of why You Are a Credit to Your Race exists after all.
edited 10th Jan '17 2:31:52 PM by Draghinazzo
Yeah, ABC = "American-born Chinese". Like how some South Asian Americans like the term ABCD = "American-born confused Desi".
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I mean, even the Nazis were allied with Imperial Japan. We shouldn't be too surprised, I guess.
Though that was mostly out pragmatism, the Nazis didn't have any short or midterm designs on East Asia. So Japan (who was on increasingly poor terms with Germany's European rivals, and the US) was a natural ally.
Remember, the Germans shifted their racism after they realized that the Soviets weren't going to capitulate. It shifted from "German superiority" to "the pan-European struggle against Asiatic-Slavic Jewish Marxism, because holy fuck we need more manpower". Racists, especially those in positions of power, are usually highly flexible.
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"Honorary Aryans" still makes me chuckle darkly.
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The Alt-right is basically a LOGH larp.
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I thought it would be F.A.T.A.L.
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Legend of the Galactic Heroes?
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Yeah, they want to play like Trump's dynasty is the Lohengramm's faction. Trump is the original Goldenbaum.
So, as we enter MLK weekend, Trump decides to kick things off by insulting John Lewis on Twitter.
(Link goes to a Fusion tweet with screenshots of Trump's tweets, since I know people don't like giving him clicks.) John Lewis the civil rights legend and American hero.
It's almost incredibly how much vileness he manages to pack into the space of two tweets. He says that Lewis ought to focus on fixing his "failing district." Which is actually going very well, but he's black and his district is majority-black, so therefore it must be failing and miserable.
Perhaps worst of all, though, he insults Lewis by saying that he's "all talk, talk, talk and no action. Sad!"note John Lewis who marched with Dr. King, has been arrested 45 times in the pursuit of justice (as recently as four years ago), and was beaten by racist cops on the Edmund Pettus Bridge.
I wonder if any Republican leaders will denounce his words here. I doubt it.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Oh, bother.
I suppose we should thank Trump for yet another reminder that he's a miserable stupid bigot.
so i made a new avatar
We knew that though, and we also know this changes nothing, so...
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Sigh, I guess it was only a matter of time before Trump insulted someone close to home. I live in John Lewis' district, and it not failing, thank you very much. Atlanta is one of the fastest growing cities in the nation. It does have problems with poverty and crime as most major cities have, but it is also home to a large population of upper-middle-class and wealthy African-Americans, and many prominant black celebrities make Atlanta their home (see, for instance, The Real Housewives of Atlanta). So his bigoted assessment of the district is not even correct, it's not like this is Detroit or something. In short, fuck you, Donald.
Disclaimer: I live in a white neighborhood that is not representative of the district and is pretty isolated socially from the black majority, so I'm not fully informed about the social and political state of the district. Still, even I know that Trump's claims are b.s.
edited 16th Jan '17 8:59:34 AM by djbj
Ain't it funny how Trump always seems to automatically associate "black" with "miserable and suffering?" This isn't the first time he's done that. Maybe it's because whenever a black person is in the room with him, they always seem to be really unhappy for some reason.
Never forget, everyone: Trump was infinitely quicker to denounce John Lewis than he was David Duke.
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I apologize if this was the wrong thread, but I wanted to ask your opinions on this: Lady Liberty to be black woman on new US $100 coin. The article says the US Mint and Treasury will issue commemorative $100 coins with Liberty first as a black woman and in the future depicted as women from other ethnic groups.
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That's pretty cool
Probably not much more than symbolic since people don't really use dollar coins but it's still a good step forward.
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
Well, it's a commemorative coin. They're not really meant for use.
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"Hoping to get a lapdance from Lady Freedom, but she acts like Hillary Banks with a prenup"
It's a nice symbolic gesture, but there's a strong problem since the US's inception of soaring rhetoric over underwhelming reality.
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In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
That's a problem in every country.
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Many are somewhat more understated. Most notably, they don't pretend to be examples to the world. In particular, "liberty" is not euphemism for "property", which in turn isn't one for "people who have lots of it".
edited 15th Jan '17 5:25:47 AM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
As far as the alt right goes, racism is not "all or nothing"; one can be prejudiced against blacks, hispanics, and arabs but perfectly okay with Indians and East Asians, or vice versa. A surprisingly large number of so called "race realists" seem to respect Chinese and Japanese even as they disparage the "Muslim hordes" or whatever it is they're in a moral panic about.
I think it stands for "American-Born Chinese".
Or men who just really like that one Jackson 5 song.
To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."