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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#51: May 30th 2011 at 7:03:30 AM

^^^ Obamacare mandates health insurance coverage purchases (either through work or by self). When provided through employment this way it adds on costs to the business not related directly to payroll. In effect, each employee regardless of pay level beforehand just got a lot more expensive. Meaning businesses will have less money to hire and thus will fail to hire larger amounts of people.

Thus unemployment goes up as the mandate stifles job creation merely by raising costs on businesses.

That's been one of the major arguments against Obamacare.

edited 30th May '11 7:04:06 AM by MajorTom

blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#52: May 30th 2011 at 7:36:34 AM

Of course, it's partially BS, since healthy employees are actually less expensive than sick ones.

But hey, if you want, we can always develop a national health care plan like pretty much everybody else in the free world.

That will reduce costs, and since people won't be hamstrung by their need to keep employment in order to have insurance, will increase entrepreneurship opportunities.

edited 30th May '11 7:52:35 AM by blueharp

SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#53: May 30th 2011 at 7:42:52 AM

The Obamacare bill is far too long, so I didn't read it. 3000 pages of legalese are too much for me.

I honestly ain't got no idea why the GOP insists that Obamacare is a commie law. If anything, it's a corporatist one:

As far as I know, the bill mandates employers to give health care benefits, and funds are approportioned for a slush fund that will insure those who are deemed to be uninsurable, or subsidize companies to insure people with pre-existing conditions.

The rest of it (and it's a long rest) is red tape and various regulations crammed inside, some of it affecting insurance companies's liability towards claims and doing a superficial reform of malpractice suits.

Did I get it wrong? 'Cause from what I gathered, the law is not particularly commie.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#54: May 30th 2011 at 7:46:03 AM

the reason they insist the bill is alternately communist or socialist is because they have a vested interest in both aiding corporations and making the common smalltown low income voter (their largest bases) happy.

If those groups think the GOP is defending them from evil Communist undermining of the nation, alls hunky dory.

edited 30th May '11 7:46:19 AM by Midgetsnowman

HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#55: May 30th 2011 at 8:05:50 AM

You Keep Using That Word!

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#56: May 30th 2011 at 8:17:48 AM

^^^ If there is one thing that has characterized Republican comments on the law, it is a complete absence of truth. Because they realize that if you say something enough times, people will think it's true, and that's what wins elections.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#57: May 30th 2011 at 9:49:33 AM

Especially hilarious, since technically, "obamacare" is a REPUBLICAN LAW

Delles The Snark Knight from Madmen Pavillion Since: Oct, 2010
#58: May 30th 2011 at 10:02:06 AM

[up]Then, the Republicans are publicly screaming that their own law is responsible for all their complaints? Well, I think they're making some progress into being more self-critical. Maybe they'll even be more altruist next.

edited 30th May '11 10:12:39 AM by Delles

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#59: May 30th 2011 at 10:16:40 AM

Progress does not include absolute blind denial that the ideas were originally their own.

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#60: May 30th 2011 at 10:16:52 AM

Its simply because Obama is behind it.

Had bush made this law they'd be screaming from the top of the mountains how this will fix healthcare.

Delles The Snark Knight from Madmen Pavillion Since: Oct, 2010
#61: May 30th 2011 at 10:18:07 AM

Objectivity, they haz it.

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victorinox243 victorinox243 Since: Nov, 2009
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#62: May 30th 2011 at 11:19:39 AM

Obama's name contains a high ratio of vowels to consonants. His name is irresistible when making up words.

edited 30th May '11 11:20:37 AM by victorinox243

Delles The Snark Knight from Madmen Pavillion Since: Oct, 2010
#63: May 30th 2011 at 11:22:23 AM

Still not a reason to blame him for their own fault. In fact, that'd be the most childish reason ever stuttered by the Republicans, and they've done good, laughable ones.

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#64: May 30th 2011 at 7:36:50 PM

It would be funny if the Democrats started taking a page out of their book. I can just picture the Repeal the Granny-killing Repeal Medicare Act Act

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#65: May 30th 2011 at 7:40:06 PM

That phrase, it is my sig.

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