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illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: May 21st 2011 at 10:58:40 AM

So, I just finished the second season (I watched the OV As first; made everything way easier to understand), and I was wondering what everyone thought about it.

Also, is there any possibility of a third season? I've heard there isn't, but the second season finale is just as open ended as the first. Thoughts?

Treblain Not An Avatar Since: Nov, 2012
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#2: May 21st 2011 at 2:26:38 PM

The first season is one of my favorite series of all time, but I didn't really enjoy the second season that much. Between the confusing plot, the inscrutable motives of the characters, and the UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ replacing Yoko Kanno's music, it just didn't have much going for it. It had some fun moments, but there was so much potential from the end of the first season, and it didn't take advantage of any of it. It wasn't terrible, but it was a disappointment.

I'm not really up on anime news, but I don't think there's going to be a third season.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#3: May 21st 2011 at 2:42:50 PM

No news on a third season. Don't think Ryuusei no Gemini did badly enough to kill the possibility, though

Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#4: May 21st 2011 at 3:19:08 PM

I quite liked the first season. Been waiting for the second season to get dubbed in order to watch it.

illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#5: May 21st 2011 at 4:42:00 PM

Yeah, I did like the first season a lot more. They had those two-part encapsulated storylines to flesh out the background and stuff. The thing is, with how repressed Hei tended to be, it was the best way to develop him as a character—playing him off a variety of different situations and characters, having him resolve more issues.

In the second season, Hei was just as taciturn (and a bit more of an asshat) and the story was more focused and had a secondary protagonist. Hei couldn't really stand out that way. I really do want a third season, though. I figured they wouldn't put such care into the OVA if they weren't going to continue the show, but you never know.

Oddly enough, I never noticed the UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ until this wiki pointed it out. I did like season one's music a lot, in hindsight. I guess the barren Russian wasteland just didn't deserve cool music.

edited 22nd May '11 4:25:35 PM by illegalcheese

darkclaw Legs of Justice from Right behind you. Since: Dec, 2010
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#6: May 21st 2012 at 8:28:39 PM

Rumor but... Darker Than Black Season 3. Hope this is true.

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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#7: May 21st 2012 at 8:59:09 PM

I'd be down with a third season as long as the finale doesn't feel like ten episodes worth of plot crammed into three again. This is one of my favorite series, and given the events of Ryuusei no Gemini there's no way they could just leave it at that.

edited 21st May '12 8:59:59 PM by ComicX6

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#8: May 21st 2012 at 9:13:37 PM

The first season was a joy to watch. The OVA was really awesome too.

The second season was okay, but it felt off. I dunno, it lost the DtB feel. It was just a show with Hei in it.

So if they really do make a third season, it better be closer to the first one.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#9: May 23rd 2012 at 7:03:03 PM

First season is currently the best anime I've ever seen. I enjoyed the second, but the first is just plain better. The OV As were kickass though, and would rank pretty close to the first season for me.

PacalII Since: Jan, 2013
#10: Sep 25th 2013 at 4:52:14 PM

I've been watching the series chronologically. And after the Gaiden series with Hei and Yin I'm now watching the 2nd season. So I've been wondering about two things. First, why is Hei still drinking? At the end of the OV As he starts drinking because he thinks Yin has died, but he finds out from the CIA he was wrong. So why is he still drinking then? And secondly, why does he want to kill Yin. Wouldn't that completely contradict what he did at the end of the prequel series? Where Yin actually wanted him to kill him, but he refused?

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#11: Sep 25th 2013 at 4:54:12 PM

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Nothing is explicitly stated about why actually. It's one of the problems with Darker than Black franchise as a whole, as the writers absolutely refuse to answer "important" aspects of the setting.

See the massive mindscrew that is the end of Ryuusei no Gemini for example. Not even production notes or director interview FA Qs since then.

edited 25th Sep '13 4:55:12 PM by MyssaRei

PacalII Since: Jan, 2013
#12: Sep 26th 2013 at 10:35:27 AM

[up] I've seen the ending. Concerning my previous question Hei probably meant he was going to kill Izanagi not Yin, but for some reason didn't want to explain the situation. But he might have been drinking because he thought the only way to kill Izanagi was to kill Yin to.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#13: Sep 26th 2013 at 11:04:59 AM

He was still drinking because alchohol is addictive and life hadn't given him a good reason to stop, surely.

PacalII Since: Jan, 2013
#14: Sep 27th 2013 at 6:03:35 AM

I've been thinking about the ending to the second season. I actually liked it, the problem is I wasn't really fond of the whole season in general. If the rest were better, I'm sure I would've loved the ending. Nonetheless I've got some questions. I guess I don't have to mention that for anybody who hasn’t seen the first and second season + OV As of Dark and Black, these questions will contain spoilers.

1. In the end of the Gaiden OV As, Yin sais she wants a wish granted, what was that wish? My interpretation: I've got nothing on this one.

2. Who was Izanagi, was it Hei, Shion or maybe July? My interpretation: I would guess it was Shion. First of all, that's what some of the characters theorized in the anime, and they must've had some leads. Second, he and Izanami contrasted each other. One had a destructive power the other had a creative one, just like Izanagi/nami in Shinto mythology. Last one is a technical thing, but if he wasn't then that would mean his role in the story was kind of pointless. That would make Suou's role pointless to (in my opinion it was to some degree anyways.)

3. Did Hei kill Yin? My interpretation: No. First of all, he it was obvious from Gaiden that he didn't want to kill her and possible even loved her. Why would he change his mind? Secondly if anything it was Izanami he was after, and not Yin. He might have thought he needed to kill her in need to kill Izanami though. Another thing is thing is that if Yin was killed by him then what was the point of getting his powers back? For me he got them, possibly from Izanami herself, to seperate her Yin and Izanami from each other. Also, if he actually did kill Yin, it would be to destroy her observer spirit/Izanami and as we see at the end of the episode, we see either her or at least something that came from her, and continues on her killing spree. If it exists then what would be the point of killing Yin anyway. Last but not least, c'mon it's Yin! She just couldn't die :P.

3. What was the Yin-looking person at the end of the episode. My interpretation: In my opinion Hei somehow divided Izanami from Yin. Now there are two options of what might have happend. Either that person is Izanami herself, or it's possibly a fused Izanami-Izanagi, which I’ve seen people calling Kagutsuchi on the internets (the mythological son of Izanami/nagi). I’d rather bend towards the first version for two reasons. First of all, Shion sacrificed himself to create the Arc and in turn died so I don’t think there was a chance for him to fuse with Izanagi. Secondly the person at the end seemed to embody only the destructive nature of Izanami, and not Shion’s creative one. You could argue against this though, with the fact that the entity person seemed to be male or somehow undefined, as if it really were a fusion of man and woman. But the counter argument could be that either Izanami somehow being the polar opposite of Yin got a male body or that it’s actually Shion that has created the body, copying Yin’s and just as in the case with Suou the copy wasn’t exact. Of course, I might be completely wrong because I missed some detail so I’d be glad to hear other opinions, though similar ones would be nice to :D.

edited 27th Sep '13 6:05:41 AM by PacalII

MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
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#15: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:22:11 AM

If I recall correctly, Hei's power is not really electricity. It is merely a side effect of his true power which is sub atomic manipulation (which he "inherited" from his sister). If true, 'cause it's been a long time, then it is possible for Hei to split Yin from Izanami resulting the Yin-looking boy.

As for Yin's wish, I think it has something to do with emotions which manifested in an extreme version, a violent and destructive Yin.

As for who Izanagi is, isn't it that "Izanami" and "Izanagi" are merely code names? If so, it is possible that Yin-boy might be called Izanagi but then again I am not sure.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#16: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:28:42 AM

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The boy was Kagutsuchi actually.

MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
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#17: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:36:57 AM

Would it be too much to ask where you got that information from? As far as I know, Dt B is sci-fi and any mythological terms are just references or codes...

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PacalII Since: Jan, 2013
#18: Oct 2nd 2013 at 7:43:11 AM

If I recall correctly, Hei's power is not really electricity. It is merely a side effect of his true power which is sub atomic manipulation (which he "inherited" from his sister). If true, 'cause it's been a long time, then it is possible for Hei to split Yin from Izanami resulting the Yin-looking boy.

As for Yin's wish, I think it has something to do with emotions which manifested in an extreme version, a violent and destructive Yin.

I don't get it, the wish was something Yin and not Izanami wanted.
As for who Izanagi is, isn't it that "Izanami" and "Izanagi" are merely code names? If so, it is possible that Yin-boy might be called Izanagi but then again I am not sure.
Yeah, the are they are names that Amber has called two seperate entities that were supposed to meat. So it's impossible that the boy is Izanami, because he seemed to have been created later on, somehow "from Yin".
The boy was Kagutsuchi actually.
Sure, but that would just be it's name. My question is WHAT IS Kagutsuchi?
Would it be too much to ask where you got that information from? As far as I know, Dt B is sci-fi and any mythological terms are just references or codes...
It's been used by some people because the son of the mythological Izanami and Izanagi is Kagutsuchi. But it's not an official term used in the anime itself.

edited 2nd Oct '13 7:46:50 AM by PacalII

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#19: Feb 20th 2015 at 5:33:58 PM

Show's officially getting a Blu-Ray from Funimation in English in 2015.

edited 20th Feb '15 5:34:09 PM by Ominae

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#20: Mar 4th 2015 at 6:06:35 AM

Flashback to awesome music.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#21: Nov 2nd 2017 at 4:55:09 AM

Raising a point now.

Does anyone know of any music that's not released as of now? I think I spotted two.

edited 3rd Nov '17 12:40:53 AM by Ominae

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#22: Nov 2nd 2017 at 5:36:32 AM

I think you left out a word or two. That didn't make any sense. Care to clarify?

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#23: Nov 3rd 2017 at 12:41:10 AM

Sorry for that Larkman. Was typing fast.

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