Well, Cygan was wondering why there wasn't one, so I made it. I guess we can talk about queer stuff. :3
(*LGBTQ+ Solidarity huggles*)
Oh, and if you're wondering, non-queer folks are welcome too.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 1st 2023 at 12:49:01 PM
God-fucking-dammit.
Whyyyy ;~~~;
Why what?
The television programme we were talking about. Man, what a great concept and not so greatly done.
Yeah, people are torn about Transparent. So far it seems to be received mostly favourably, but Kels has a point.
Fear the cinnamon sugar swirl. By the Gods, fear it, Laurence.
I read some report that said half the nation apparently thinks being gay is a sin again. This sucks.
"Just as planned."
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It's one of those waves of moralism that hits the US now and then - some seem to think that morals from religion should be the guiding force of the nation, not anything else, and it leads to them believing anything vaguely immoral should be banned too.
I'd question the validity of that report
"Just as planned."
"Just as planned."
You can't just claim that when there are plenty of churches who will full on deny any sort of rights to LGBT persons, and people like Pat Robertson who publically speak against anything they interpret as gay.
"Did you expect somebody else?"
.... I know 
On a more positive note:
California bans "gay/trans panic" from courtrooms.
I'm surprised other states haven't banned it
Uniocular
California also recently put a pretty neat consent law in place.
They're doing pretty alright recently.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Lots of stuff that isn't only long overdue, but shouldn't need a fucking extra law to begin with.
Fear the cinnamon sugar swirl. By the Gods, fear it, Laurence.
Uniocular
True. But progress is progress, right?
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
PROWGRAYUSS!
No, wait. That would be Texan.
edited 30th Sep '14 11:17:18 PM by TAPETRVE
Fear the cinnamon sugar swirl. By the Gods, fear it, Laurence.
We've actually been discussing the new California laws in my social studies class. Theres a girl in the class who is against the "yes means yes" law.
Can someone explain the "Yes Means Yes" law?
I don't understand how it works.
Like, consent is consent, right? How can one prove (or disprove) that one did say yes (or not say yes)?
The law makes it so that sex is only consensual if all partners give a definite yes.
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much more accurate than what I said.
edited 1st Oct '14 9:21:15 AM by smokeycut
"Just as planned."
The way it works is that you have to be capable and in a good enough mind to be able to say yes for it to equal consent - lack of resistance, clothing and other factors don't make it a yes. You also can't be said to be consenting if under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
"Did you expect somebody else?"
But...
How does one prove consent?
- The Affirmative Consent Standard makes it clear that it is the responsibility of the person who initiates sexual contact to make sure they have the VERBAL CONSENT of the other person — instead of the current situation, where people put assume it's the responsibility of the woman to "say no" — instead, the Affirmative Consent Standard says it's the man's responsibility to "get a verbal yes."
- The Affirmative Consent Standard reduces ambiguity in sexual situations, by making it clear that the initiator of sexual contact must receive a "verbal yes" from the other person.
- Currently, many men assume if a woman "does not say no" then that means "yes" or interpret "silence/saying nothing" as a "yes" — this ambiguity can lead to rape/sexual assault.
- Under the Affirmative Consent Standard, silence is NOT a "yes."
- Under the Affirmative Consent Standard, the absence of a no is NOT a "yes."
- Under the Affirmative Consent Standard, the only "yes" is a "yes."
- Under the Affirmative Consent Standard, a drunk woman cannot consent to sex, because her judgment is incapacitated by alcohol.
(of course this source focuses on hetereosexual, male-initiated sex)
Maid of Time
wait hold on
define "gay/trans panic"
i think i mostly want to see what happens when this whole place breaks apart
Yeah, that sort of stuff is what I was worried about.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."