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G.G. Since: Dec, 1969
#1: May 17th 2011 at 9:37:11 AM

Going back to the Deconstructor Fleet thing, how do I subvert the expectations of the reader, twist the tropes around and add in some unpredictably in there? I would like to try a different take on some by asking what would happen if a seventeen something dude became a super sentai? Or what if less than noble heroines became magical girls? Or what would happen if there was an actual zombe attack?

These are interesting questions but it is possible to do a different take on genre coventions as well as subvert the expectations of the audience in question?

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#2: May 17th 2011 at 11:41:45 AM

Stop thinking in terms of tropes and genres and start thinking in terms of real life and real people. Start looking into personal life stories, psychology, history...

That's what the point of a deconstruction usually is, no? To take an idea whose complexities are normally taken for granted and apply it to reality?

edited 17th May '11 11:42:46 AM by annebeeche

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G.G. Since: Dec, 1969
#3: May 17th 2011 at 7:54:57 PM

I'll give that a try but it is going to be soemwhat difficult consider that TV Tropes did ruin my perception.

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#4: May 17th 2011 at 8:07:40 PM

Funny because that never really happened to me.

If TV Tropes has legitimately ruined how you look at fiction, I don't know how to help you because only you can change the way you look at things.

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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#5: May 17th 2011 at 8:11:48 PM

I see tropes in fiction as well. I still know how to consider stories and works without tropes influencing my perceptions, though.

I have a piece of advice for you- works display tropes, not the other way around. In the same vein, a cake may be made of eggs, flour, and butter, but those things do not necessarily make a cake. Do you catch my drift?

In the end, the story is all that matters. Concentrate on writing a good story first, then worry about tropes later. Okay?

edited 17th May '11 8:12:25 PM by CrystalGlacia

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#6: May 18th 2011 at 9:24:26 AM

Alrighty then, I'll do it. I'll to avoid tropes for awhile.

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