Copyright laws

I used to think the same thing about shooters, since (on the PC in pre-Halo 2 days) the three legs to the metaphorical table were marksmanship, mods, and low-ping private servers. Sadly, people have proven capable of accepting fake substitutes for all three (auto-aim, DLC, and subscription servers.)

Eric,

Yeah, I know that. I was just responding to Eric's responding to me about how I think game companies need to start working with lower budgets, so they can both sell to smaller markets and offer more tiers of pricing while still being able to earn back their initial expenditures.

As in games costing $50 doesn't necessarily have anything to do with copyright, but to do with what game companies need to charge per unit to recoup their costs.

And I am also an Adventure Games fan! Though more the old skool Sierra and Lucas Arts stuff.

edited 18th May '11 12:50:26 PM by Jeysie

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Tales of Monkey Island is the sex. BUY IT.

Believe it or not... I actually can't run it! I tried running the first episode back when it was released for free for a time, and it ran like molasses on my video card. Pooness.

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Did you try making the graphics shitty?

Yeah, I turned down all the detail I could... no dice.

I hate unnecessary 3D graphics.

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You poor thing.

This thread gives me hope for the future of humanity. Srsly. I've never seen a pirating/IP-themed thread that managed to go on as long as this one has without devolving into rants and screaming. Kudos and shiny gold stars to all major participants for keeping it as civil as possible while actually trying to address each other's points.

After all the endless trolling, egocentricity and general immaturity that the internet has to offer, stuff like this is veritable parade of rainbows and unicorns to mine eyes.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.

I don't know, we got pretty close there a few pages back.

From the tone of most debates on this topic I've seen on the internet, even those parts were amazingly civil.

Well, that's true-I've always been annoyed at how readily people on forums would go "YOU'RE A USELESS PIRATE, SCUM OF THE EARTH" or "I disagree with you as you limit free speech. Jerk."

Yes, that is a perfectly balanced portrayal of the namecalling on both sides. Honestly.

If anything, Tomu, that's a prettied-up view of how it'd go. Not that we're perfect, but I'll settle for "at least we're not quite that bad."

A brighter future for a darker age.

Coincidentally, there's a newly-launched trope that deals with one of my big complaints with copyright's current implementation: God Does Not Own This World

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That's pretty much inevitable, though. For things like novels, music, or paintings that have one creator, it's pretty simple — they automatically get their copyright. For things like movies, TV shows, or video games, where dozens or hundreds of people are involved in the production, things are less clear. The copyright in those cases go to whoever funded the project — they're called works for hire, and the law is basically that if someone pays someone else specifically to create a work, then the work is owned by the one who payed, because the creator has already received their compensation for the work (the payment from the owner).

Quite frankly, I have no idea how else you could handle cases with dozens or hundreds of "creators".

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

"Very carefully."

RIAA Warrentless Seizures And to interrupt with a relevant article from wired.com threat level.

Wow um way to screw up California. No way a business should have this kind of power.

Who watches the watchmen?

Yeah, as much as I oppose piracy, the methods of fighting it have gotten increasingly incredulous and creepy lately.

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That's just bizarre. What's special about optical-disc pressing plants that make them feel they need to bypass proper process and not get a warrant first?

Mostly just to prove they can.

Yup. Ego and hubris. Which is what most of those trade industry groups are dealing with anyway.

Trying to pull your cultural works out of the culture seems like a losing proposition to me.

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Um, yeah, let's see, this law covers pretty much outright commercial copyright infringement.

I can recognize an ability to sympathize with person infringers, but this isn't that. This is somebody who is trying to make money off stealing other people's work.

So nobody is concerned about the increasing role of warrantless searches in modern law enforcement?

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

Not so much in industry, no.

When they begin to start issuing publishing permits, then I'll worry.

Oh, I find it pretty disturbing, but it's California. They're well-known for legal insanity. What're you gonna do?

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.

A good video on the history of "piracy", and how today's piracy is tomorrow's mainstream cultural and economic norm.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2011/may/30/internet-piracy-cory-doctorow

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