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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#51: May 10th 2011 at 7:07:38 PM

Gardening as a large scale hobby doesn't work well because it's a focus and resource intensive hobby where you can't just let it sit there for a few weeks cause you're busy with work, that shit will die. People tend to prefer hobbies where they can put focus on something else if they want to in aggregate.

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#52: May 10th 2011 at 7:10:30 PM

Depends on what you're growing.

If you choose to grow stuff that needs intensive management, that's on you, but a lot of plants work well if you just leave them alone.

Besides, a lot of people put considerable time into their hobbies.

edited 10th May '11 7:11:33 PM by blueharp

Diamonnes In Riastrad from Ulster Since: Nov, 2009
In Riastrad
#53: May 10th 2011 at 7:10:53 PM

Ultra: Tsu hates American culture.

For some reason.

Thus, generalizations. :/

My name is Cu Chulainn. Beside the raging sea I am left to moan. Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#54: May 10th 2011 at 7:18:27 PM

It's a culture, that's enough of a reason.

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deathjavu This foreboding is fa... from The internet, obviously Since: Feb, 2010
This foreboding is fa...
#55: May 10th 2011 at 9:05:25 PM

More walking tracks and exercise areas. Even more sidewalks. More localization so people have a reason to get out and walk. Designing our cities to rely on automobiles has a cost.

This, so very very much. There are places within 2 miles of my house I have to walk alongside bridges and cross a freeway exit ramp to get to-it wasn't until the 5th or 6th route I tried that I discovered a backroad that was reasonably safe the whole way.

The sidewalks just seem to sort of end arbitrarily, in really weird locations. Like they only put them in because they had to, not because they actually want them to be used. And I'm pretty sure our location is really good about having sidewalks, considering how many parks there are around and what I've seen elsewhere.

High Fructose Corn syrup: It's roughly the same as table sugar, 50% sucrose and 50% fructose. Last I heard, fructose doesn't trigger insulin or leptin like glucose, leptin being the chemical that makes you feel full. This wouldn't be a problem (since it's so similar to sugar, as noted) except that it's so damn cheap that it gets dumped into everything.

If it weren't, things would just have less sweetener-which is fine, because people get way too high of expectations for sweetness precisely because this cheap corn syrup is in everything. They get used to that level of sweetness as kids and expect it in everything.

And of course, the only reason corn syrup is so damn cheap is because the govt. subsidizes corn to the tune of $40 billion a year. A fascinating read on the subject, *

complete with a comparison to the "drinking culture" of the early 1800's, caused by an overabundance of corn which was turned into the easiest/most profitable thing it could be at the time-corn whiskey. And that's where prohibition came from.

edited 10th May '11 9:24:39 PM by deathjavu

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Diamonnes In Riastrad from Ulster Since: Nov, 2009
In Riastrad
#56: May 10th 2011 at 9:15:11 PM

Like I said.

Biotechnology.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
Nemesis
#57: May 10th 2011 at 9:23:00 PM

One thing, conceptually simple but, alas, really hard to actually do:

Quit being disgusted by fat people exercising and quit humiliating them for it. This shit starts in school (and frequently comes from the staff just as much as the students) and continues later. For that matter, school gym coaches: quit thinking that the best way to motivate your fat students is humiliating them. What you're doing is giving them a lifelong aversion to exercise.

The educational purpose of sports and exercise is to encourage kids to develop exercise habits that will stay with them and serve them practical good in life. NOT to find the fucking sports stars of the future and ignore everyone else.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#58: May 10th 2011 at 10:13:02 PM

That makes sense, but...wouldn't it be better to stop kids from getting fat in the first place?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
Nemesis
#59: May 10th 2011 at 10:19:07 PM

Um, that's my point. If you effectively teach people that only the good-looking and talented are allowed to exercise, then what happens to everyone else?

Also, bear in mind that you really don't have to be all that fat to get treated that way.

edited 10th May '11 10:20:40 PM by Morven

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#60: May 10th 2011 at 10:22:34 PM

Some children naturally develop fat more than others too.

Driscoll Are you frustrated? from Mit meinem Kaiser! Since: Nov, 2010
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#61: May 10th 2011 at 10:27:31 PM

One of the things that I didn't see mentioned in the thread is that the amount you eat is just as important as what you eat. A hamburger isn't bad for you unless you're ordering the double/triple/quadruple stacker. And the hamburgers I make at home are smaller than what you get at Mc Donald's. You can still have "bad" foods as long as you aren't overeating them.

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Quoth Pink's alright, I guess. Since: Apr, 2010
Pink's alright, I guess.
#62: May 10th 2011 at 10:37:03 PM

Driscoll: Yeah, I know a lot of people who don't get that eating "healthy" doesn't mean they're going to magically lose weight if they still stuff their face.

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