Soul Calibur/Soul Series

B+K is actually pretty easy.

I might see about setting A+K to L1 instead of A+G, since that's a pretty easy one, too.

On Game Cube, A was block, Y (that was the one above A, right?) was vertical, X was horizontal, and B was kick. I think. It has been a WHILE.
On PS 2, I think X was block, Square was horizontal, Triangle was vertical, and Circle was Kick.
For both, the lower shoulder buttons were A+K and B+K, Z/R1 was A+B+K. L1 on PS 2 was A+B.

If you guys did SC VI, would you bring back Just Guard, Guard Impact, or how would you handle blocking?

Bring back impacts as they were in II, and flip a coin on just guards.

I dunno about continuing Just Impacts, actually. In the heat of a fight, you don't think about getting the timing right for the Guard Impact, and you get a Just if you're lucky.

Coin flip sounds like a bad idea.

I just said that 'cause I don't really have an opinion on 'em. I'm not talented enough to pull them off on purpose anyhow. :/

EDIT: Just Impacts, from IV, I'm not a fan of. I guess, come to think of it, I'm not really a fan of Just Guards, either. Kinda OP, and only the savants can pull it off when they want to; makes it even harder on a casual player when they get matched up with one.

edited 10th May '14 11:12:26 PM by Knowlessman

Anyone get the feeling that Patroklos using his shield as a scabbard was to foreshadow that he studied under Setsuka?

Just Guards are in no way OP....

Just SCII Guard Impacts....

Uh, yeah. In hindsight, once you realize that Setsuka's style is Pat's "true style" you can see a lot of influences of it in Pat's sword and shield style. I always kinda thought of his sword and shield style as "him attempting to do Sophitia, but with only Setsuka's fighting style to work off of". Because he is trying to apply a fighting style intended for a completely different style of weapon, you get the awkward and janky style Pat has in V.

Pat's fighting style is stupid and I hate it. I don't like Alpha Pat either and it feels like a cop out from actually having Setsuka in.

Anyway I just bought SC 5 for a little over 5 bucks via LIVE. Mainly for the character creation which is supposed to be the best yet...does the robot voice still happen though?

edited 25th May '14 9:41:18 AM by Vertigo_High

Pat's playstyle isn't nearly as awful as his character, but that's not saying much. Can we please just remove him from the series now? Even the creators hate him if his modified official profile is any indication.

I don't recall the robot voice happening much (or at all) in SCIV, but in V even the slightest shift in tone or pitch (in either direction!) causes echoing. It's one of the most noticeable flaws of V's CAW system, I think.

Here's the problem: Patroklos has always existed, since SC 2, so what, you don't want him playable?

Pat's Sword and Shield style is dope, screw the haters lol

Best S&S since Cass.

I regret buying Soul Calibur V. I like Patroklos, but really I wish they had enough time to really work on the game as a whole because it feels unfinished. On another note, 4 is seriously underrated. It's perfect.

Plus, it has DARTH VADER. If Luke was on the 360 version instead of Yoda it would have been perfect.

IV had a horrible netcode though.

4 is far from perfect but so far it's better than 5 even with the slower combat. Though a lot of problems 5 had started with 4 somewhat(like the nerfed single player ugh).

SC 5's ONLY saving grace I'm seeing thus far is it's return of replays, music somewhat and CAS improvements(though it did some baffling things worse as well, such as the pitch alteration/clothes not fitting).

The fighting system is probably my least favorite yet(ignoring the F 2 P games of course). GI costing meter is one of the stupidest decisions I've seen yet and really limits your defensive options, also it seems like the game is more combo focused than ever which turns me off a bit. In fact the meter thing is even worse than I figured it would be while playing, now so much of the combat revolves around meter-which would be fine if it wasn't a soul calibur game. I feel like SC 5 tries too hard to cater to the general competitive FGC that it ends up losing some of its own identity in the process.

The single player? Horrid. Story mode is whack, quick battle is just annoying to navigate since you have to return to the menu each time to fight a different opponent, and arcade is just lazy.

Honestly this is the first time I felt bored while playing a SC game. You can brag about the netcode all you want but when the gameplay itself isn't fun it's like so what.

I do like the added CAS options, nice I can adjust the hips now lol. It's really the only thing I see keeping me playing this game.

But man, even for 5 bucks, this game is disappointing.

...Damn.

I think it really comes down to how much you (dis)like the changes to the fighting system.

Not digging any of the newbies so far though. Pat has got to be one of the worst SC characters ever. His playstyle is really awkward too.

Xiba is downright sin, can't believe we lost legit Kilik for this clown.

Viola is kind of fun to play actually. Not feeling Zwei at all(what a tryhard character BTW) and haven't tried Natsu yet.

I feel like half the cast is missing and we got losers as replacements at least for those that got replaced.

Ezio isn't even as fun as I thought he'd be.

edited 26th May '14 7:21:22 AM by Vertigo_High

Amen on that last part. I would go so far as to say that be is the worst-written protagonist in all of media. I'm sorry Pat fans (all 4 of you), but I can't buy his so-called development. ZWEI kicks the crap out of him and he suddenly becomes a saint? You expect me to believe that after everything he did and how insufferable he was?

It's just a shame how little effort goes into the SC games now. I, II, and III all had a lot of polish and little things that helped make them awesome (did anyone else love the Weapon Exhibition?), but after that it's just heartbreaking how far the series had fallen. At least IV had something resembling effort, as the CAS is very detailed and the Tower of Lost Souls was a nice mode.

edited 26th May '14 7:07:26 AM by RavenKingSage

5's CAS is actually the best as far as the customization goes, though it loses on a few things as well like the voice glitch, items not fitting the character model(seriously wtf is with that?) and the weapons being just aesthetic changes. Plus it reuses a LOT of stuff from SC 4.

Also SC 4's story was pretty lame. SC 5's has more effort at least yet is still bad considering how poorly written/presented the story is and how you're forced with the Alexandra failspawn + ZWEI.

Like you know, even Ivy's ass got a nerf. Seriously, that's just sad.

It's like Namco is trying to nerf the series into oblivion. And now this Free 2 Play swords of single player whatever crap...OMG Soul Series I weep for thee.

edited 26th May '14 7:29:36 AM by Vertigo_High

Natsu is pretty much just Taki with hairdye, reduction surgery, and an annoying accent. The moveset has barely been touched, though, apart from the Edge stuff. She does have an amusing as hell teleport move now, though.

EDIT: Pat's "style" is the single dumbest way I've ever seen somebody try to fight, especially with his constant hitting people with the wrong end of the sword, but I'll say this much: it is playable. :/ Hell, it has to be; he's the protagonist. Siegfried's easy to figure out for the same reason.

edited 26th May '14 8:42:18 AM by Knowlessman

Out of all the new characters I think only Xianghua's daughter and Pyhrra are the only good characters.

4 was awesome, by the way. It wasn't perfect but it was very good. (The skills system can go jump off of a cliff, though.)

Darth Vader is a blast to play as. He should have been the only guest character. Ashlotte and Angol Fear are pretty dope too.

For all its flaws I had a lot of fun with SC 4. And the netcode kind of gets exaggerated a bit, at least it wasn't always terrible and you could find some decent matches from time to time.

SC 5 has some wonderful looking levels, except one that really stands out. The nighttime battlefield with the weird scrolling background that's obviously drawn, it looks terrible. My sister realized it too when the fight started.

So far none of the characters have clicked for me too much, and no Natsu still feels off, making me believe its the engine itself that feels weird. Really everyone in the game feels like they play worse except maybe Astaroth/Nightmare.

edited 26th May '14 3:12:06 PM by Vertigo_High

Both of Astaroth's costumes in V look utterly retarded. Why is he a robot? Why is he Teslastein's Monster? I miss his costumes from 2. Even the lava monster was better than his costumes in V, and at least IV kept his former primary as his alt.