Florida doctors banned from asking about guns

Building a Mk19 would either involve designing and building a similar weapon system from scratch(which means you should be working for an arms manufacturing company..)

Apart from that, you would need lots of working knowledge and handling experience of a Mk19. Knowledge that you would have to be a CATM(Combat Arms Training & Maintenance AKA Armourer) to know. Even then they don't teach the dimensions of the entire weapon system, you would have to take the time to measure time and time again the sizes of a real Mk19 in order to make sure you got it right.

And just as a beginners note, you can't use regular 40mm grenades that you would use in a M203 or similar under-barrel rifle grenade launcher, you need the special high velocity 40mm rounds made specifically for the Mk19, which you would also need working knowledge of to make.

Long story short, not practical. <.<

Okay, guess I'll just rig up a sling shot and hope I don't drop the grenade.

Hmmm. How about instead of asking if there are any guns in the house, doctors ask about explosives? If they include gunpowder in the list, they'll get the info about the ammo. Remember, guns don't accidentally blow the heads off of children, bullets do!

Then they can always just say no. Just like with guns.

Right. Than can lie without this law. They can also tell the doctor its none of their buisness. This essentially just makes it harder for Floridian doctors to do their jobs.

Speaking of homemade weapons, a teen in my area built a working flamethrower as a science project. Won him a prize or two, iirc.

^^

It's not any of their business if the parent doesn't want to disclose the information. Following the line of thinking that you're required to disclose such information is exactly what causes a huge backlash by groups like the NRA. Anything even vaguely referring to the concept of mandatory confirmation of gun ownership freaks them out, and I like to think rightly so.

I'm not afraid of the bogeyman that they are, and I'm all for registering firearms upon purchase, but the fear of that they have isn't necessarily irrational.

Like say with me, I keep every gun I have locked up tight in a gun safe that would take 6 people to carry out of my home with a random combination that can't be guessed as it has no correlation to anything. The only gun I keep out of my gun safe is one of my handguns, which I keep on my nightstand. The gun has a cable lock through the slide and out the magazine well, it's essentially a solid metal cable with a padlock on the end of it that occupies the gun in a way to where the slide cannot come forward and you cannot load the weapon. The key for this cable lock is around my neck on my dog tag chain, so I always have it. The extra key is in the gun safe I mentioned.

Most gun owners take precautions like this, especially if they have kids in the house. There are irresponsible parents and irresponsible gun owners, but if I have kids and a doctor wants to ask me if I have guns in the home, it's my choice to tell him because it's none of his damn business. It'd be better if along with the normal spiel about household chemicals that toddlers and infants often get into, they also did a quick blurb about "And if you own any firearms, make sure to do X, Y, and Z as a child safety precaution." This would avoid all the controversy here, and also covers the bases of liability if the parents purchase a gun in the future, because they were already briefed on the risks of insecure firearms in the home.

Oh, I was under the impression this bill would prevent them from even bringing up guns at all unless the kid had a bullet wound.

The way you put it it should be included in the spiel regardless, which makes sense to me, but do they give the pool safety bit to people without a pool? I wouldn't know, there's more years between me taking somebody to the pediatrician and now than me being taken and now.

It's not like the doctor is saying: "Do you have a gun? Okay, let me write it down, and I'll put you on the child services watchlist..."

The doctor is saying: "Do you have a gun? Okay, these are the safety steps you should follow..."

Although, since this is Florida, a lot of the doctors probably know enough about firearms to work it into a conversation that's "off the record."

Hell even outside of Florida, I have lots of range-buddies who are doctors. They have the scratch to buy some pretty cool shit.

How Dr. McNinja.

edited 12th May '11 3:16:32 PM by HungryJoe

And, dammit, if I'd gone through the hell of medical school and internship, I'd buy myself some nice toys too.

Oh yeah, I know an officer in the medical squadron who's a weekend warrior guardsman that commutes from Nevada to here once a month. I was in the neighborhood seeing my grandpa in Henderson and we met up and shot. He's got a ranch out by Lake Mead with a fucking killhouse to practice CQB in! I got to clear rooms and do takedowns with his super tacticool and tooled up Bushmaster ACR. I came.

Needless to say, he has 4 children, all of whom know how to shoot and how to respect firearms. He said he kept them locked up for the longest time in his safe with the exception being a weapon in a lockup system similar to mine, but his youngest is 12 or 13 and he doesn't worry about it anymore. The boy's been responsible using guns for several years now and regularly goes on hunting trips with other family members, he was telling me his 3 boys and daughter both correct other kids and the occasional adult on proper handling procedure the second they do something unsafe.

Edit: Should have mentioned, he's a doctor at an ER when he isn't out here in military status as a aero-med captain.

edited 12th May '11 3:42:14 PM by Barkey

A personal killhouse? I think I just jizzed my pants reading that.

Yeah, I'm rather envious of him.

This also reminds me that I haven't seen him in a while.. Perhaps I need to make a visit to Nevada when this heightened threat posture crap is over with.

You know shit is going down when Target is on DEFCON Mauve.