How are you celebrating Osama's death?

A human being died. It may have been necessary, for the safety of others, but this is not a happy event.

He murdered. He was killed. May his Judgment be merciful.

edited 3rd May '11 10:03:16 PM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

Please note that I specifically said living being and not human. Metta is to be given to all things. Killing and harm are unavoidable and sometimes we need to, but celebrating that is disturbing.

^What he said basically. He words it well. Just remove the thing about judgment.

edited 3rd May '11 10:03:08 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

I was not talking in religious terms, he was a human being who committed some of the worst atrocities in recent memory, I see no reason not to rejoice at his passing.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?

He was a living being, now he isn't.

Someone explain to me why I should be sad about this.

Memento Mori

Some people are fixated on the fact that it was a death and death is a bad thing. Sure, granted, then there are those who are glad he's been done in not because he's dead but because he can't hurt anyone anymore. How does that one sound?

The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.

I am not saying that what Osama bin Laden was responsible for is right by any means nor am I saying that you should be sad that he is dead. There are surely benefits to his being dead. I just do not feel that the death of another living being should be celebrated. Not like this.

edited 3rd May '11 10:09:12 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

but once again, why not? so far the only thing I heard was because he was a living being, so what? His presence on the Earth has done nothing but cause pain, the removal of him allowed for closure and less pain overall, isn't that something worth celebrating?

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?

He is a living being and all living beings I feel are worthy of compassion, pity, and aid. I wish he wasn't such an asshole and that there had been a way to help both him and everyone else that he was maltreating. Sadly I highly doubt there was a way.

So I will feel bad about the fact that Osama was a huge fucking asshole that hurt people as well as feel bad for all those he did harm. His being dead means he cannot continue to bring suffering about, but I do not feel I should really celebrate that. Because he could have been something else. Everyone could. But many aren't. That's sad. So I am not sad that he is dead. I am sad that he was a huge dick.

edited 3rd May '11 10:17:18 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

I am not understand.

Before Osama died my estimates place humanity's suck value at 99999.

After he died my estimates placed it at 99998.

What's not to love? There is no downside here.

edited 3rd May '11 10:18:01 PM by Sarkastique

Memento Mori

...personally I'd rate our suck level much, much higher.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

Sarkastique: I'd imagine the whole "celebrating the death of another human being" part.

I'd rate humanity's suck level, if out of 10, at a 5.

edited 3rd May '11 10:18:54 PM by Zersk

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I'll also rate our suck much lower. As for his actual death? Neutral, I didn't know the man, I just know of the problems he's caused in the past. I'm not saying we should take this time to sack a mosque, but I can't help but feel that without him, the world is much better off, so I'm celebrating the effects of his death.

The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.

with 10 being the suckiest and 1 being the least? probably a 2, 2.5 if I'm feeling negative that day.

@Aon: I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?

I'd say the thing about not celebrating his death has some merit given the celebrating his death side seems rather keen on hate speech towards all muslims.

Indeed.

^That bothers me even more than the fact that people are celebrating his death. At least do it in a way that doesn't hurt or spread hate towards others...please...?

edited 3rd May '11 10:24:01 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

@Midget: That's a dangerous position to hold, are you claiming that Osama spoke for muslims?

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?

Political correctness aside, I can't agree with people using his death as a Take That! against people of the Middle East in general because he's not representative, but then again, in a sufficiently large crowd, there will be idiots and racists, so that's unavoidable. However, I still stand by my point that since he can no longer do harm, we should be joyful at the gain. I'd be the same way if they captured him instead of shooting him, he can no longer do harm.

The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.

I don't know where this assumption that celebrating death is bad came from.

Memento Mori

Difference in personal beliefs and world view. Also religion.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

I don't see anything wrong with being glad that he's dead and therefore can no longer hurt people. But cheering "Yay! He's dead!", congratulating themselves, toasting his death, etcetera... it just strikes me as ugly and petty.

edited 3rd May '11 10:46:23 PM by LoniJay

Be not afraid...

Wait what? People actually do that?

edited 3rd May '11 10:42:19 PM by Zersk

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Embarrassing typo is embarassing.

Or rather, congratulating America in general. "Yeah, we did it! U-S-A! U-S-A!"

Be not afraid...

Oh. I thought you meant people literally congratulating themselves. As in "yeah, we did it, we're so awesome!"

Though I guess there isn't too much difference between the two.

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Certain people did. And they call Obama the Narcissist.

From the recognition of the inherent dignity of all human beings, perhaps? And of the fact that all of them belong to the same kin?

It's fine that people are glad that he is not longer a threat; it's just the whole "being glad of the death of their own brother" thing that I cannot agree with.

By the way, you know what would be great? If a mixed-religion group — Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, whatever — gathered to pray for Osama. Not apologizing for his death, but not celebrating it, either. Recognizing his many misdeeds, but not dwelling on them — just praying that, wherever he is now, he is not faring too badly.

That would increase humanity's Awesome Value, and by a lot.

edited 3rd May '11 10:53:06 PM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.