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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#76: Jul 22nd 2011 at 5:59:27 PM

The comicbook ones raise an interesting question, what do we do when a cast is part of a much larger work like the DC universe?

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#77: Jul 22nd 2011 at 9:38:11 PM

[up] I dunno, you'd also have to take in account inconsistent art, team roosters, potential new characters and there's isn't exactly much in terms of established canon for the breasts size of the characters.

At the very least in the DCU as far as heroines in the go, Power Girl has the largest breasts (with the second largest being Wonder Woman) and is physically stronger than Wonder Woman, but Wonder Woman is better fighter than Powergirl and Supergirl, who is considerable less busty, is on par with Power Girl as far as physical strength goes.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#78: Jul 23rd 2011 at 12:40:12 AM

I remember hearing somewhere that Power Girl is more powerful than Superman himself. How much is actual "power" and how much is "whatever the author wants to do" seems to change.

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No9 Since: Apr, 2011
#79: Jul 23rd 2011 at 12:58:32 AM

What I meant before is physical strength from a magical source like Alchemy, Chi, Ki, Chakra, Yoki, Mana or not/half human etc which isn't natural physical strength and usually gets disabled, runs out or low at some point in the story leaving them weaker than a smaller human. All of these are closer to the mage side.

Selvaria, Nasuverse Girls, Claymore, Madoka and many more.

edited 23rd Jul '11 1:21:33 AM by No9

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#80: Jul 23rd 2011 at 6:33:46 AM

Power Girl is generally seen as stronger than Super Girl because she has more training, more experience, and she's older and has come into her full strength as opposed to Super Girl who isn't fully... developed yet.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#81: Jul 23rd 2011 at 9:11:33 AM

Man, the two middle paragraphs for the trope read like they belong on the analysis tab. They're not explain the trope, they're just throwing hypotheticals as why this trope exist.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#82: Jul 23rd 2011 at 9:23:21 PM

You should have seen it before I took a chainsaw to it a long time ago. It not only had those, the description bickered with itself over whether or not it was realistic.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#83: Jul 23rd 2011 at 9:53:01 PM

Oh I remember, and the page looks much better without that back and fourth "this is unrealistic" and "this is realistic" crap, but still the description for this trope pretty much only consist of the first sentence.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#84: Jul 24th 2011 at 12:04:58 AM

I'm hesitant to cut something down that far, simply because such short descriptions scream "poorly launched stub" to me.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#85: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:17:16 AM

[up] I wouldn't worry about it. There's not really much to this trope. It's just pointing that certain types of characters have big boobs. There's no need for filler text and it's not like it has stay one sentence long. If someone wants to add more to the description the free to do so but not like those two paragraphs which totally read like they came out of someone's ass.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#86: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:21:46 AM

Hm, I think if we just swapped the second and third paragraph, it wouldn't be too much. Generally, the further down you go, the less relevant the text is (or at least, that's how it should be).

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#87: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:41:35 AM

[up] If they were relevant to the description or understanding of this trope then they should stay, but they're not. They're just some hypotheticals that someone put there without anything to back it up. Stuff like that, regardless of the order belong in the analysis section. If the only info we have on this trope is the most physically strongest female has the biggest breasts, then that's a we need. Keep It Brief

edited 24th Jul '11 4:42:31 AM by captainpat

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#88: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:24:26 PM

Okay, I'll go move it. Delete or Analysis?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#89: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:33:48 PM

Analysis. People are less likely to add it back that way.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#90: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:36:07 PM

We can do both. I already copied and pasted those two paragraphs in the analysis section.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#91: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:56:16 PM

Deleted, added a sentence about reasons being on the Analysis page. I compacted the "related tropes" into one paragraph while I was at it.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#92: Jul 24th 2011 at 5:07:50 PM

Much better, though I think we need to decide whether this trope pertains to the strongest fighter or best fighter, there's enough distinction between the two.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#93: Jul 24th 2011 at 5:49:47 PM

I think it would work best as a "strongest" fighter, simply because a well written work won't have someone be the best fighter regardless, but will depend on the situation. Competitive/tactical balance and all.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#94: Jul 24th 2011 at 6:08:35 PM

Ok well I replaced best with strongest. To answer No9's question, if a character's strength comes from unnatural sources like mana, ki, or yoki then the don't count. However, half human or other species do count since their strength is natural to them.

edited 24th Jul '11 6:11:37 PM by captainpat

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#96: Jul 24th 2011 at 7:27:52 PM

If they meet all the other conditions. I think Power Girl is the only real example I know.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#97: Jul 24th 2011 at 7:32:41 PM

[up]semi-ironic, as Power Girl is exactly what springs to mind when I see the name! :)

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#98: Aug 5th 2011 at 9:42:53 AM

ok well we're done here.

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