Heterophobia

(I believe I'm gay, so don't call me a bigot yet...)

An optional read, but not necessary.

So Maggie Gallagher gets a lot of flack apparently—People are always laughing at the National Organization for Marriage.

You remember this gem, right?

But does it seem that these guys are always getting cursed at? She mentions how civil discussions never seem possible, and she gets accused of spreading hate and believes she receives a lot of it (and judging by the comments on gay news site Advocate.com she definitely does receive it).

Is heterophobia getting to be a big thing too?

Dislike of intolerance =/= heterophobia.

That said, prejudice does usually go both ways. If one group is prejudiced against another, the other usually shows an equal and opposite prejudice.

Yes, heterosexual married Christian couples are totally the victims. Legalizing gay marriage would destroy these peoples' lives completely.

I can kind of see what they are trying to say.

I don't think being uncomfortable with same sex couples, so long as you are civil about it, is automatically bigotry. It's ok to not be comfortable with it, and to even go so far as to believe that it's wrong.(for the record, I support gay marriage)

Some of these people have legitimate grievances. Such as how in California there is a bill on the table right now about mandating a curriculum on gay history in public schools. What the hell is gay history? What do you even cover with that? That just seems too much like catering to a specific minority regarding things that aren't terribly relevant to history itself. I'll make a thread for it.

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CAPTAIN!

Thank you Captain Picard, you always know how I feel

But seriously, what did I just read. I'm starting to get a better perspective of your view Barkey. I mean that's just way too much and to be frank, insanely stupid.

>_> Gay history perhaps in addition to black history. Or women's history. But, I know it's not the same...

"I mean that's just way too much and to be frank, insanely stupid."

Er... May I ask why you think that? Barkey too.

EDIT: Gay history thread started, so...

edited 22nd Apr '11 10:47:38 AM by LoveHappiness

I would say how gays were treated in the past counts as relevant, since the gay rights thing or whatever is going on right now.

That said, there's plenty of things I wish people were more knowledgeable about, but not enough resources to make that happen. So it's understandable if "gay history" is low on the priority list.

Because I see at as pandering for the gay vote by the Senator from the San Francisco district, and not trying to do anything legitimate.

Edit: The rest is in the thread.

edited 22nd Apr '11 10:50:23 AM by Barkey

Homophobes oppose homosexuality. By analogy, heterophobes would oppose heterosexuality. People calling Maggie Gallacher a bigot because of her strict opposition to any form of legal recognition of homosexual partnerships doesn't seem to have anything to do with opposition towards heterosexuality. So I don't understand what even prompted you to bring up "heterophobia". It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the rest of your post.

@Tongpu As a horrendously simplified guilt by association platform.

So maybe it's more...Homophobiaphobia. X/

Well, what do I fix...

"Heterophobia" is Greek for "(irrational) fear of difference".

That's almost the same as the perfectly good word "xenophobia".

Rott, how about heterosexism?

Yes, that term makes much more sense.

I fail to understand, what are those horrible things that'll happen to the people in that video if gay marriage becomes legalized. Stuff like "they will teach at school to my child things that I don't believe" isn't so horrible that it would need storm and lightnings. They can still teach their own values to their kids themselves. Like all the other parents, whose believe system isn't the same as the school system's.

Let's talk about that video, cause that video... Is just too hilarious.

It's got a dozen parodies...

This was my favorite:

XD

@Sveni: but..but..if children are exposed to multiple points of view they might develop informed opinions and strong convictions!

Or decide to turn into lesbians.

I remember the Futurama version of the ad.

^^ And that's terrible.

edited 23rd Apr '11 7:18:51 PM by joeyjojo

One question for people who are afraid of gay marriage: if it were legalized, would you marry someone of the same sex? If not, then why do you think it'll hurt straight marriage? Gays aren't likely to marry the opposite sex anyway, or if they do the marriage probably won't function well.

Principals i'd suppose.

^^ I think the idea is supposed to be that the very concept of gays marrying delegitimizes and disrespects the institution. I imagine the feeling must be like what more traditional churches think of Pentecostal religious services.

edited 25th Apr '11 4:11:36 PM by feotakahari