Very specific definition for a very general name.: The Scream

Now fortunately The Scream actually is about screaming, but if you haven't read the page yet, guess specifically what it's about.

I've seen a few pages that think it's a Super-Trope for screaming (and I formally propose we to a name and definition shift for that), but it's not. The picture isn't helping, but that's another thread.

Is it about visual Stock Parodies of Edvard Munch's The Scream?

No.

Support a rename.

It's actually apparently both tributes to the scream, and screaming in general. Support split of The Scream parodies from the more general examples.

It's even more specific. This is the second sentence of the first paragraph:

"Cut to a shot of the surrounding area with the audio of the scream still going, then to the countryside (where it might disturb livestock or a farmer or must cause birds to burst from the brush in a panic), and possibly further back to a shot of Earth from space all the while with the scream still looped in the background (it has been applied to the Big No as well)."

It lists numerous parodies of The Scream, but nowhere in the description is it mentioned even once. As Dragon Quest Z seemed to suggest, that may be due to the image. At any rate, it certainly doesn't have to do with anything written on that page.

Still a useful split, though, and I agree that making The Scream a Super Trope to various screaming tropes sounds good.

edited 12th Apr '11 3:54:07 PM by nrjxll

Third paragraph

As an alternative, this can be done as an explicit parody of Edvard Munch's painting The Scream; in particularly well-done instances, the art style will morph rapidly to match Munch's expressionist style for a few seconds.

edited 12th Apr '11 3:55:54 PM by shimaspawn

That is, if you read the description literally, there are actually two different extremely specific tropes being described here (screams that the camera can hear from ridiculously far away and Munch tributes), which have nothing to do with each other except that they're both about people screaming.

Oops, we crossed.

edited 12th Apr '11 3:57:44 PM by Micah

So I say we split the distance shot screaming, since the trope name is after the painting.

Don't we have one for explosions or something that we might be able to snowclone off of?

Long Distance Scream?

There are actually three (maybe more) separate tropes here.

1. super-trope for other scream tropes. 2. someone screaming more or less off-camera, combined with a long-distance shot of where they're presumeably screaming from (it seems like the ur-example here is the horse-head scene in the godfather, but for all i know its Older Than We Think) 3. references to the munch painting

there are also a lot of examples of other scream tropes... isn't KHAAAAAAN! with accompanying from-above camera angle its own trope?

my solution would be to make The Scream about the painting and references to it (more of a work page than a trope page), make a scream index/supertrope page (maybe too punny, but Index No One Can Hear You Scream?) and then make a trope page for the godfather-style scream-from-a-distance (I Can Scream For Miles?).

edited 13th Apr '11 2:19:17 PM by jaytee

In This Index No One Can Hear You Scream makes more sense. Making puns of "Index" with standing for "In (other word)" are just clunky.

I have no problem with that.

Or No One Can Hear These Tropes Scream to make it a little shorter.

that one is stretching it... i'd rather have a completely different name at that point. i'm sure we can find a few other "scream" puns to play with.

And This Index Must Scream.

But And I Must Scream wouldn't belong on this index anyway, since it's not about screaming.

Edit: Bizarre... one of those bluelinked.

edited 13th Apr '11 7:20:08 PM by nrjxll

I like Index No One Can Hear You Scream best. All of the rest of these just sound forced. Yes, it's a bad pun, but at least it flows nice.

So... I think I agree these are two tropes entirely.

Big Damn Scream?

wrong button

edited 30th Sep '11 4:47:28 PM by CrypticMirror

This thread just can't get momentum. Locking.