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AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#26: Apr 10th 2011 at 1:46:38 PM

They're not doing it because the series is not selling enough.

Okamiden's already sold more than the first one, apparently.

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#27: Apr 10th 2011 at 2:17:11 PM

It shocks me that the series isn't even selling well enough to cover the translation of a game that has practically no voice, though. Text translation doesn't really break the bank.

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#28: Apr 10th 2011 at 2:47:50 PM

Well theres also money spent on advertising...

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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#29: Apr 10th 2011 at 2:51:02 PM

These games aren't really advertised heavily, though. I usually just see one trailer and nothing else aside from a mention or a review in a magazine. This series strikes me as one of those ones that aren't advertised or shipped heavily because the company doesn't have much faith in them.

Capcom should probably take some cues from Atlus, the king of budget gaming.

edited 10th Apr '11 2:54:00 PM by ComicX6

Idler20 Rabbit Season Since: Oct, 2010
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#30: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:07:26 PM

I find it weird that they've taken this attitude now. What makes AAI 2 less viable a product that AAI 1?

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AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#31: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:11:19 PM

^ They thought that AAI would sell more than it did. It didn't, so...

Remember that the only motive here is money. If it costs more to translate and export than it makes back, it won't get translated.

Idler20 Rabbit Season Since: Oct, 2010
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#32: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:18:41 PM

Then I guess my next question is: why would Investigations have sold less than any of the other previous games? Did people just dislike the lack of court scenes that much?

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ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#33: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:21:45 PM

Apollo Justice leaving a sour taste maybe (I dunno I quite liked that game)

Or perhaps the fact that the game was just pure continuity porn with a plot that wasn't as good as, say PW 1 or T&T. I dunno I'm just speculating here.

The news sucks, but Capcom's been complaining about lack of sales for AA for a long time so I'm not completely surprised.

ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#34: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:22:06 PM

The original four were released in relative close succession, so my only guess is that the bubble surrounding the franchise has shrank during the two-three year gap inbetween Apollo Justice and Investigations.

Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#35: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:31:38 PM

Rather inconsistent. I can't imagine Ghost Trick was a far more marketable IP than the already successful (declining or not) Ace Attorney series.

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#36: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:36:25 PM

Seriously, Capcom needs a better marketing team. I only found out about most of these games through the internet.

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Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#37: Apr 10th 2011 at 3:51:26 PM

Seriously, Capcom needs a better marketing team. I only found out about most of these games through the internet.

Seriously. Okamiden is easily the worst offender. Releasing it with no advertising whatsoever right after the DS's biggest ever release and right before a major Nintendo hardware release?

derrrrrp

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
#38: Apr 10th 2011 at 5:08:20 PM

This thread. Post HERE.

The post I just linked shows that they ARE taking the sudden backlash into consideration, so now's the time to add to the response.

Cysma Since: Jan, 2001
#39: Apr 10th 2011 at 9:29:05 PM

This reminds me of Cing, and their refusal to export the sequels to Trace Memory and Hotel Dusk. How am I going to import, then?

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#40: Apr 10th 2011 at 9:34:43 PM

To whomever was worried about Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney, Professor Layton does sell well (though still not spectacular, it's building a name for itself), and Level-5 would probably push for its release.

Barrylocke Reaching the Future, the hard way from Thracia Since: Aug, 2009
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#41: Apr 10th 2011 at 9:45:11 PM

[up]x3. As disappointed as I am in the news, one thing I will say that I respect for Christian Svensson (Senior Vice-President) is that he's taking the time to give clear concise answers for Capcom's reasoning. It's a far cry from suddenly pretending that the game doesn't exist (has Nintendo of America said ANYTHING about Fire Emblem 12?) and it's something that I wish more companies and it's employees would do more often.

One thing I learned from watching the Tales of Innocence translation go on is how much work goes into the localizing portion of things. I can see it costing a hefty some of money to localize the game, which they have generally done a very good job of doing...I just wish more people in our region would play the games.

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#43: Apr 11th 2011 at 12:44:24 AM

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TsundeRay HOORAY! from Santa Clara, California Since: May, 2009
Cidolfas Since: Jan, 2001
#45: Apr 11th 2011 at 10:43:31 AM

I'm not quite as upset as I might be, because I thought AAI was the weakest entry in the series. The reason Okami Den is selling better is because it's, well, a good game. I would probably pick up AII 2 if it came out here, but not with great expectations.

On the other hand, if this decision would mean no AA games if and when they finally release AA 5, then I would get upset. Very, very upset.

TsundeRay HOORAY! from Santa Clara, California Since: May, 2009
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#46: Apr 12th 2011 at 1:21:34 AM

I wanna see a second game starring Apollo Justice already. Ideally one where he stands on his own instead of playing second fiddle to Phoenix.

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SparkyLurkdragon Sophisticated as Hell from Southeastern Oregon, USA Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
#47: Apr 12th 2011 at 4:11:36 AM

[up][up] My thoughts exactly.

AAI 1 was basically just "woooooah remember when the guy did the one thing HERE HE IS DOING IT AGAIN", and while the boss theme was awesome, the fact that it invariably played on the last bit of every level kinda soured it. And the final boss went on way too friggin' long.

Still, I'd be sad to miss Gregory Edgeworth playable. :( On the other hand, keep in mind: Westerners missed the original GBA release of the Phoenix Arc too. *shrugs* Maybe we'll get enhanced ports or something down the line.

edited 12th Apr '11 4:20:35 AM by SparkyLurkdragon

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#48: Apr 12th 2011 at 4:22:51 AM

Visual Novels have a lot of text. Translating them is quite a bit more work (and therefore money) than it is to translate most games, and the audience for them is already much more niche in the first place. Frankly I'm more surprised that it took this long for them to give up.

biznizz Since: Jan, 2001
#49: Apr 18th 2011 at 4:46:26 PM

@Cysma I imported the EU release of Last Window just fine and I live in America. Besides didn't Cing file for bankruptsy last year?

On topic.... WHY. I'm a guy who genuinely liked the first AAI (yes, even with Alba and his refusal to give up) and though Apollo Justice wasn't that bad (his game wasn't THAT bad, but I honestly think he just needs a game of is OWN and have Phoenix in the background... Or half the cases with Phoenix and half with Apollo). I just gotta wonder... even without the re-releases and the Gold Edition, was Resident Evil 5 THAT successful to warrant the furthur upcoming games? They better change their minds quick.

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NONAMEGIVEN from Nowhere Since: Jul, 2013
#50: Apr 18th 2011 at 6:10:03 PM

[up] I honestly dont see why people hate so much Alba´s really long part. I personally liked it. He abused the sistem, but hey, he IS the bad guy so it makes sence xD.

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