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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#26: Apr 8th 2011 at 1:05:30 AM

Also, the Catholic Church is agnostic on the evolution question, though most people accept it as fact, sans anything smacking of atheism. You can be a creationist if you want, but you'll still get facepalmed. Myself, I believe evolution is the most scientifically-supported theory out there.
I would rather say that the validity on non-validity of the theory of evolution is not something that the Church has any authority about. It stated officially that there is no theological reason to reject it, so anyone attacking in for - say - biblical motives is not working within the framework of official Catholic theology. If one disagrees for other reasons, whatever - it's every bit as silly as rejecting the atomic theory of matter, at this point, but as long as he does not expect scientists to accept his arguments without extensive proof...

As for Berlusconi being the lesser evil, I disagree. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of crooked and untrustworthy politicians among his opponents, but the difference is that they do not have is massive financial and media power - which, by the way, is the only reason his government did not fall already: he pretty transparently bought some Parliament members from the opposition, and his support comes mostly from the people who mostly get their news from television (the vast majority of the newspapers loathe him, as does the vast majority of the people who read newspapers). Plus, I think that, at the moment, there might be a few more vaguely acceptable people in the opposition.

But I did not want to complain about Berlusconi in this thread, I do that often enough already.

A funny tidbit of news: the main Italian LGBT rights organization has asked for de Mattei to be substituted with said Cardinal Ravasi - who is, actually, fairly conservative and not at all inclined towards their interests, but at least is not insane grin

edited 8th Apr '11 1:13:26 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#27: Apr 8th 2011 at 2:35:34 AM

What is it with Italy and its love for having crazy people in charge?

EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#28: Apr 8th 2011 at 2:37:15 AM

Crazy people are entertaining?

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#29: Apr 8th 2011 at 2:49:35 AM

Not when they are ruling an empire/country they aren't!

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Cojuanco Since: Oct, 2009
#31: Apr 9th 2011 at 4:36:26 PM

[up]Or if you don't have business interests in that country. Insane people aren't good for investment.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#32: Apr 9th 2011 at 4:59:45 PM

What is it with Italy and its love for having crazy people in charge?

Crazy people are entertaining?

Not when they are ruling an empire/country they aren't!

They are if it's not your country.

So, does that mean that Italy likes to put crazies in charge to amuse other countries? That's so generous of them! But I think someone else should do it for a while. Fortunately, elections are underway in Finland, and if my worst fears come true, we'll wish we had Berlusconi!

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johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#33: Apr 9th 2011 at 5:36:04 PM

Uh oh, fascist Finland. Look out, world: this one can't be tamed.

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#34: Apr 9th 2011 at 5:53:52 PM

Well OK, it's not that bad. But a party led by this guy might grow to be the largest (depending on how many people actually bother to vote) in the elections, and that guy's looks are 12 times better than his politics.

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#35: Apr 9th 2011 at 6:12:25 PM

Why does he have a badger brush stuffed up each nostril?

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#36: Apr 10th 2011 at 1:16:45 AM

Instead of derailing this thread further, here's a link to a thread about Finnish politics.

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