"Phillip Coulson: Agent of SHIELD"

Whedon's getting a lot better at having reasons to kill beloved characters. Compare the progression of Wash to Penny to Coulson. I was really wanting Coulson to limp out onto the bridge in the finale to make Fury an even more Machiavellian manipulator, but we all know Joss loves his body count.

It's not like his career was exactly short. There's a lot of room for his character development between the first Iron Man and Thor. Or even the second. He pretty much takes his level in badass on the plane to Arizona. What I'm saying is, there's gobs of time to fit a prequel series in.

edited 6th May '12 8:08:21 PM by TParadox

Wasn't it Word of God that Phil lives?

Yeah, but I couldnt resist the urge to use the Jossed pun.

Joss lied, Coulson died

I would love that to be true, because if there is something I hate about comic books is characters coming back from the death randomly. But is it just a theory or you know it?

edited 8th May '12 5:34:44 PM by nairoxev

No personal knowledge. it just seemed to me that the actor and Whedon sort of made it sound like Coulson was safe without actually promising he was. I admit it is possible that Coulson's death was faked and it is convincing because everyone would assume that Joss would kill off a character like Coluson

You got at least part of your wish, he's in the Ultimate Spider-Man animated show.

I thought this was real from the title, and my first thought was "HELL YES!" Then I learned it was just an idea...

Wait!!!! It's not over yet.

Coulson will be in the SHIELD pilot.

But to what capacity or how he'll appear is not known.

IGN says he's the star.

And The Fandom Rejoiced.

I think the series will take place before the avengers.

edited 14th Oct '12 5:28:21 AM by dontcallmewave

“Ever heard of a Life Model Decoy? Coulson Lives.” <- Not necessarily!

Or even as simple as "Fury lies." We saw that Coulson was still alive when Fury got to him, medical teams were arriving, and then "Fury called it, he's dead." So the minimal explanation necessary is "Fury lied over the intercomm while the trauma team stabilized him and hauled him off for treatment secretly."

Wonder if it is Joss who is lying and in a bit of trolling, we'll see Coulson's funeral in the pilot or something like that.

That does make sense and barring that, there is always Life Model Decoys (either the Coulson who died was one or perhaps the "real" Coulson died but has a Backup Clone- hmm, guess that's not a trope).

edited 14th Oct '12 9:46:54 AM by Jordan

Joss Whedon himself confirmed that Fury lied ages ago.

It's a case of the Cretan liar paradox. If Joss says that Fury lied, what does that mean?

I felt really let down that the end of the movie didn't reveal Coulson being wheeled out of the recovery ward and asking Fury what he missed. "Those cards weren't in his jacket" indeed.

I assumed during the movie he died but Fury fake bloodied the cards to give a more visceral impact to motivate them. Nice to hear.

Maybe the discussion should move to the existing topic on the show now.

• cough* This topic exists literally years earlier.

Is that confirmed, or a WMG on your part?

I wonder if HYDRA will play a part in this series.

Doesn't matter, it's a speculative topic that's now moving onto discussing a real show that has a topic for it already. And the topic title is not the name of the show and might be confusing.

edited 15th Oct '12 10:27:42 AM by occono

Yes, I was thinking maybe this thread should be closed?

Or simply retitle it into the shows title.

I found what may be a picture of a model of a design for the Vision.

Sorry, that piece is fan-made. I've seen it before.