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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#6751: Feb 26th 2017 at 9:00:51 PM

@blkwhtrbbt: Yes it was-now I want Pellaeon. Not cheap knock off Pellaeon, like the completely unsympathetic Rae Sloane; the real deal, a genuinely sympathetic Imperial Commander cut from a similar cloth as Fulcrum.

edited 26th Feb '17 9:01:28 PM by ViperMagnum357

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#6752: Feb 26th 2017 at 9:05:04 PM

Um...I don't know what Pellaeon you remember, but he is absolutely not cut from the same cloth as anyone who has bourn the Fulcrum title.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#6753: Feb 26th 2017 at 9:23:08 PM

[up]Second Fulcrum, should have specified. Pellaeon ran the full gamut from complicit to moral objector, but he was always competent, fairly honest, and never For the Evulz. Through all of crap Pellaeon did in service to the Empire, you knew where he was coming from and could empathize, even when you could not sympathize or condone. Rae Sloane was pretty nasty from the outset in A New Dawn, and she lost any possible audience sympathy in Afermath, where she broke an agreement that was pure spite without benefit and chucked a teenager off a balcony to get him ripped to pieces by an angry mob. Every time Sloane appears I wish for her excruciating death, and the fact that she survives so long puts a damper on the new canon for me.

edited 27th Feb '17 8:12:13 AM by ViperMagnum357

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#6754: Feb 26th 2017 at 11:51:17 PM

Pellaeon has really two facets to his character. One is The Watson to Thrawn's Holmes, a relatively relatable viewpoint character through which the borderline-fantastic supergenius of his superior is viewed, his lens tinted slightly by hero worship but tempered by Thrawn's teachings. He's the one Thrawn explains everything to, the one who Thrawn confides in, because Thrawn himself is too alien for his perspective to work for the reader.

The other facet shows up when he's had some time to grow into his eventual status as supreme commander of the Imperial fleet. Over the years, he's seen countless warlords perish, either in combat or from their own stupidity, and every time it happens, he's the one who picks up the pieces. There's still traces of his old status as the relatable enemy officer in his character, but somewhere along the line he grew a spine and started putting the cunning he got from Thrawn to good use.

Captain Pellaeon was a good character and pretty much a necessity for Thrawn's to work, being the closest thing he had to a friend that wasn't Jorj Car'das (who didn't even exist at the time of the Thrawn Trilogy). Grand Admiral Pellaeon is friggin' amazing and probably one of my favorite Legends characters, but chances are the new canon isn't able to fit him in.

but HOW?
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#6755: Feb 27th 2017 at 5:43:43 AM

Yularen seemed to take his role in the most recent episode.

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NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#6756: Feb 27th 2017 at 4:14:13 PM

Since we've started with the Megatron references... I doubt Thrawn isn't tracking ''and'' documenting every edit of his map file.

Lyste's eagerness to score brownie points was amusing, and the episode as a whole was solid, but Status Quo Is God regarding Kallus staying makes his arc seem a bit protracted. I'd have liked to see him awkwardly try to get used to the not-so-shiny Ghost or Chopper Base (Kallus vs Krykna?).

Also, the moment for Konstantine to meet the character he's kind of an expy of, like Kallus and Thrawn.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#6757: Feb 27th 2017 at 4:32:50 PM

Um...it's not Status Quo Is God. Because Thrawn knows. Kallus makes the choice to stay because he thinks his cover is intact and he is most useful as a spy, but the audience knows this is not the case. Status quo broken.

NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#6758: Feb 27th 2017 at 6:38:03 PM

Didn't Thrawn know before? Or did he just suspect?

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#6759: Feb 27th 2017 at 7:08:14 PM

[up]Strongly suspected while keeping it to himself-and his patience was rewarded when Kallus got a bit too smug and Too Clever by Half.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6760: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:58:31 PM

I wonder why Filoni and co. haven't brought Boba Fett into the series yet. This is a time period that has a lot more open opportunities to use him than The Clone Wars had, and even so I really liked the way he was written in that series.

edited 27th Feb '17 10:59:12 PM by KnownUnknown

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#6761: Feb 28th 2017 at 5:15:19 AM

Because seasons two and three have been built around Ahsoka/Vader and Thrawn.

And he can't be working for the Empire at this point, because he's sent Vader's way by Jabba after the Battle of Yavin, so they'd need to fit him into a non-Empire episode, which there are few of. I'm sure we'll get him eventually.

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#6762: Feb 28th 2017 at 6:35:13 AM

Also, and this might be something no one's ever thought of in the Galaxy far, far away - Thrawn could just write down the list on a piece of paper. Ezra can alter as many data maps as he wants, but he's not getting around that.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6763: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:16:21 AM

[up][up] I don't recall the Vader comic saying that's the first time he's ever worked for the Empire - though it's definitely the first time he and Vader met face to face. Given the nature of his job, I'd be surprised if he had only ever taken a bounty for Imperials well after A New Hope.

edited 28th Feb '17 10:17:07 AM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#6764: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:48:42 PM

I feel like the Empire generally looks down on bounty hunters, and I get the sense both from the Star Wars comic and their scene in The Empire Strikes Back that Vader's use of them is a rather maverick move justified by the need to find one specific rebel.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#6765: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:56:24 PM

That does seem likely, although I don't think it's impossible that we might see an Imperial commander who is okay with using bounty hunters.

Alternatively, the Ghost crew could end up pissing off the wrong people (well, other wrong people), which results in them getting a bounty placed on them. Of course as has been noted, the show mostly focuses on the Imperials as the bad guys, but you never know what might happen...

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NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#6766: Feb 28th 2017 at 1:26:37 PM

Hmmmm. Lost a planet, Grand Admiral Thrawn has. How embarrassing. How embarrassing!

edited 28th Feb '17 1:26:56 PM by NhazUl

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#6767: Feb 28th 2017 at 3:17:24 PM

Kallus knows which planet it is, he saw which planet was swapped. I feel like Ezra has forgotten this given that it didn't matter at the time what with the plan being to bust Kallus out.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#6768: Feb 28th 2017 at 6:46:53 PM

Preview clip from the next episode. It has some mild spoilers, so you might not want to watch if you want to go in completely blind.

Stand Against the Empire Preview Clip

WE ARE GOING TO DANTOOINE!!!

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#6769: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:03:24 PM

I'm guessing Thrawn's attack on their base in this season prompts them to move to Dantooine next season.

edited 28th Feb '17 7:03:43 PM by Kostya

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#6770: Feb 28th 2017 at 9:51:55 PM

Also, and this might be something no one's ever thought of in the Galaxy far, far away - Thrawn could just write down the list on a piece of paper. Ezra can alter as many data maps as he wants, but he's not getting around that.

The Star Wars universe is not supposed to have any paper at all, per decree of Lucas. It was intended to make it feel just a bit more alien. Not every author in the old EU got the message, but there have been no examples of paper in the new EU, so presumably the order still stands.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#6771: Mar 1st 2017 at 1:48:05 PM

Wow, that's deeply depressing. A universe without books?

Hellbore Since: Dec, 2010
#6772: Mar 1st 2017 at 1:56:26 PM

I assume they went digital thousands of years ago, and books fell out of use. Now they'd be primitive curiosities, meant to be preserved digitally.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#6773: Mar 1st 2017 at 2:07:14 PM

Yeah, they have datapads and whatnot. It's just that these people have been technologically advanced for such a ridiculous length of time (they've had Casual Interstellar Travel for longer than the human race has existed in the real world) that paper has been completely forgotten. Some of the old kids books had young Jedi finding a dead-tree library and having absolutely no idea what the things on the shelves were.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#6774: Mar 1st 2017 at 2:31:18 PM

One of the Galaxy Of Fear books had the cat poking around in an ancient library. They reacted with shock when they found an actual book.

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