Starcraft 2

1.3.2 patch available.

Jonah Falcon

Nothing big to note, just bug fixes.

wait, did marauders even have stimpacks in the campaign? I'm pretty sure it was only firebats and marines.

edited 18th Apr '11 6:53:05 PM by Blissey1

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They did not, I'm pretty sure. If so this is the first I've heard about it.

edited 18th Apr '11 6:55:03 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Yeah, they don't. They're still IMBAAA though.

Wait, I thought is was only Marines. I'm sure stim pack Marauders would kill Diamondbacks also.

I never used firebats so I don't remember clearly but I don't think they had stim.

They had Stim in the first game. Can't quite remember if they have stim this time around.

Hmm... the Moebius mission has got my strategic sense going and going... that second building is better defended than I expected, especially since there's no high ground. I figured dropping a Hercules full of merc marines and firebats right on top of them would do the job. Nope. Guess I'll pick up the Marauders first after all.

edited 19th Apr '11 8:44:13 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

They don't have stim in this game because every upgrade is unique to its unit.

NVM

edited 19th Apr '11 9:11:00 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

On the topic of that, why didn't Marauders have them in the campaign? Kinetic Foam is really lame.Why?

Also, cant you use that Toss research to make it so that armor upgrades add extra life?

edited 20th Apr '11 10:09:51 AM by nuclearneo577

Man, Whispers of Doom put me in a false sense of security for the Protoss missions: compared to that A Sinister Turn is surprisingly difficult.

"Hey, this is presumably your first time getting used to Protoss units, so we're give you an already made base. Cool, right? Then, we're gonna have you at war with a constantly respawning superpowerful hero unit, who will attack your base every... minute and a half or so. And he'll be coming with waves of units of rapidly increasing strength, which will attack you roughly twice as often as he does. Oh, and he can immobilize most if not all of your army allowing his mooks to destroy them and your base, and is guaranteed to take out at least a few of your expensive units that take a long time to make, so you'll probably be spending all your time replacing the units that you lost and not actually building an army. Oh, and this isn't a defensive mission, you're expected to destroy his base. That's good, right? No? Well fuck you! Muhuhuhuhahahaha!"

Honestly, it feels more like a survival game than an actual mission. If you don't build multiple Gateways in practically the first two minutes of the game (which I forgot to do, forgetting that not only do the Protoss units generally take twice as long to build as Terrans, but they don't have reactors either) you're screwed down the line. Heavily. Unless you instead presumably built a solid wall of Photon Cannons (which I swear are less effective this time around) to stop intruders.

Business as usual. I'm getting flashbacks to Brood War... man, the Protoss really make me miss medics.

Of course, you could always cheat. Now that I think about it, I wonder if the second stage of the game (the attacks) only kicks in after you do the initial "power up the base" spiel. If so, that's a massive oversight, because one could theoretically amass an army before the mission actually starts.

edited 20th Apr '11 10:46:32 AM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

When my brother tried the Hard achievement for that mission, he failed the time limit by less than a minute. That sucked.

edited 20th Apr '11 10:49:49 AM by Kerrah

Oh yeah, I forgot there was also a time limit, since they don't actually tell you how much time you have. Urgh.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

They do. Just check the achievement screen for the requirements of the hard achievement.

Oh, there's an achievement for speed. Ok.

For a second I thought there actually was a requirement to save the Preservers before "it's too late," as Zeratul put it.

edited 20th Apr '11 10:55:01 AM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

In my first play though, I never beat that. I just build a lot of photon cannons. And gave up. I already has max Toss and Zerg research anyway, and didn't care for the extra money.

The preserver mission was really easy, you just need to mass Zealots, Stalkers, Immortals, a Dark Templar or two, and A High Templar to use Feedback to take a lot of hp off of Marr and stop his teleporting.

Also, will you tell me your handle if I pm you? I'm interested in playing with another troper.

edited 20th Apr '11 11:12:23 AM by nuclearneo577

You get High Templar?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Yes, go to the south east base and power the Templar Archive.

edited 20th Apr '11 11:13:23 AM by nuclearneo577

Ah yea, that'd be the only one of the abandoned buildings that's actually protected, right? My first play through I went there and my army was annihilated.

As I said, I'm going to remember to build another Gateway right off the bat this time, so I won't be struggling to rebuild my army to meager proportions every time the Hybrid attacks this time.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Before you get a big army, build 8 or so cannons to kill Marr. Place 4 of them near where he attacks, and 4 faceing the south east base. He should teleport right form one group into another. 5 Zealots with level 1 weapons should also help.

edited 20th Apr '11 11:19:12 AM by nuclearneo577

Imo, cannons are a waste. Instead, just power up the robotics facility to the left of your base without wasting money on static D. Pump probes constantly and when you have enough income, stalkers constantly, prioritizng immortals over stalkers.

Terran's ****ing imbalanced holy shit. If they go 2 rax you can go 15/15 speed and still not stop them if one freakin bunker gets up by one unscouted scv. What the **** is it what that f*cking stupid race that can expand and make the command centre into a ****ing invincible fortress. **** Terran.

7 rax rush yo.

Fight smart, not fair.

Er.. what is with the colorful language?