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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
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#1: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:43:26 PM

Now I barley passed Biology here and don't know a thing about it but is ther eabsolutely no use no scientific or medical use outside of DNA sampling for Urine, Feces, hair, sweat, tears, etc? It's been at the back of my mind for ages and I want to hear opinions on it.

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#2: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:47:42 PM

I hear piss makes cruddy soap . . .

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QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#3: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:50:02 PM

Fertilizer? Wikipedia lists lots of uses for urine.

edited 23rd Mar '11 8:51:53 PM by QQQQQ

tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
Dracula
#4: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:51:04 PM

So we have one though that's pretty obvious i'm talking about the fact that human waste has quite a few mineral resources and chemical resources. Why are we not using it more effectively?

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#5: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:51:36 PM

Let's recycle it using advanced suits.

Never need to eat again!

[up]Seriously, the mineral count varies from poo to poo and there's no good way to separate the crap from the good stuff yet.

edited 23rd Mar '11 8:52:17 PM by Usht

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
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#6: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:52:46 PM

I say toilet companies and swage companies need to work together to actually make an effort to collect the waste isntead of just letting it be lost.

Um... Was the Pun intended?

edited 23rd Mar '11 8:53:19 PM by tnu1138

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#7: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:55:50 PM

It's a topic about poop. Do you think I'd pass up that opportunity?

Anyway, the problem is that the way poop is made, it's very difficult, time consuming, and energy intensive to get out some relatively minor amounts of minerals. Thus why if poop does get reused, it's usually as fertilizer, because nature breaks it down better.

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
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#8: Mar 23rd 2011 at 8:58:05 PM

What about Urine and sweat? Tears?

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#9: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:01:23 PM

Mainly made out of water and salts. Urine could technically be sterilized and used for non-food purposes if you can get people to have separate tools for flushing that stuff away. Sweat, just how do you expect to collect that? Same goes for tears.

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tnu1138 Dracula Since: Apr, 2009
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#10: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:05:23 PM

Ok you have a valid point there. Then again it could redefine the meaning of Sweatshops.

edited 23rd Mar '11 9:05:51 PM by tnu1138

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#11: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:12:33 PM

That's still be horribly inefficient to do since sweat is meant to stick to humans' skin and we aren't exactly towels to be squeezed.

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#12: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:32:54 PM

Um, urine is already sterile. Just saying.

  • composting toilets — throw in compost with fecal matter and you eventually have fertilizer. Just don't pee in the toilet. Please.
  • aged urine's been used as a cleaning agent since antiquity.
    • skins were also soaked in urine as part of the tanning process.

edited 23rd Mar '11 9:37:06 PM by annebeeche

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#13: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:34:59 PM

It's sterile inside your body. Once it makes contact with the outside world, then the soup of stuff in it starts reacting with common bacteria in the air and water making it very unsanitary. As in, water doesn't react the way it does.

edited 23rd Mar '11 9:35:28 PM by Usht

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#14: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:37:21 PM

Okay, makes sense to me.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#15: Mar 23rd 2011 at 9:59:52 PM

Well, we are running out of water, so eventually it may eventually prove cost effective to filter are our urine to save water.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#16: Mar 23rd 2011 at 11:33:16 PM

Off the top of my head? Let's see fecal matter is commonly extracted and used to farm methane for a while and then the results are scraped together, boiled to kill any remaining parasites, and then sold as fertilizer. I think they can pull something out of urine if they've isolated it enough, but I can't remember what, and I don't think the value of it balanced out with laying a second layer of drain pipes. I think hair can be thrown in with the fecal matter, as can most biological waste products.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#17: Mar 23rd 2011 at 11:36:36 PM

Well I know I'd let, and quite enjoy, a hot chick piss on me.

But as for uses, you'll have to ask someone more sober. But feces does make good fertilizer, I'm told.

edited 23rd Mar '11 11:36:57 PM by MarkVonLewis

Kyelin Since: Apr, 2010
#18: Mar 24th 2011 at 12:35:37 AM

IIRC the Romans used to use urine as part of the dyeing (dying?) process and the first phosphorus was extracted from urine

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#19: Mar 24th 2011 at 12:42:11 AM

Urine is where a lot of excess nitrogen ends up, and nitrogen is one of the major limiting nutrients for a lot of agricultural systems, so fertiliser is of course the big one.

[up]I've heard that before, that they used it to fix dye.

Depending on the diet, feces is mainly indigestible plant fibre. I'm not sure what you could use that for except, possibly, fuel for fires.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#20: Mar 24th 2011 at 1:26:32 AM

I know they used to make leather with piss, but we've got better material now.

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Nomic Exitus Acta Probat from beyond the Void Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Mar 24th 2011 at 2:09:47 AM

In Sweden they're experimenting with toilets that can extract phosphorus from urine. We're actually in danger of running out of natural sources of phosphorus since we use it way too much as a fertilizer and it gets washed out into the sea where it's nearly impossible to get back (and it also causes increased algae blooms since it's a fertilizer and all, but that's a different matter).

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