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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#1126: Jun 17th 2014 at 12:00:11 AM

[up]Correction: It was both, really. Everybody's love for The Boss (and, depending on MPO, Ocelot's love for Big Boss) set the stage for the PATRIOTS, but it was everyone's crush for Big Boss that sent everything to Hell when he got tired of Zero's shit.

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OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#1127: Jun 17th 2014 at 3:24:16 AM

It's also worth noting from Paz's tapes that Big Boss and Kaz got in a naked fist fight in the shower because Big Boss didn't like how he was two timing some girl.

nyo ho ho
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1128: Jun 17th 2014 at 4:32:18 AM

And while yeah, if BB really is gay then it's good that Kojima isn't trying to hide it, but the fact is it's gonna seem awfully forced to a lot of people.

That's probably part of the problem with the industry.

Ground Zeroes definitely has all of Paz's tapes.

But for some reason, not the secret tape.

A lot of people, myself included, have played all the major numerical MGS games but never touched the mobile iterations. That means aside from what I glanced online from plot summaries regarding Peacewalker and the characters involved, such a big twist would end up looking like it came out of the blue for a lot of folks.A lot of people, myself included, have played all the major numerical MGS games but never touched the mobile iterations. That means aside from what I glanced online from plot summaries regarding Peacewalker and the characters involved, such a big twist would end up looking like it came out of the blue for a lot of folks.

Also, Peace Walker was part of the HD Collection.

Really does feel like it came out of the left field, especially since he had a straight relationship first with EVA. Having him be revealed as bisexual or gay now is gonna seem... forced. Can't really think of another way to say it.

Of course bisexual people can have heterosexual relationships.

edited 17th Jun '14 7:42:41 AM by unnoun

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#1129: Jun 17th 2014 at 10:36:53 AM

Wait, did Big Boss and Kaz seriously have a homosexual relationship in Peacewalker?! I thought that was just humor and joking from the fanbase given how they're close friends and not something serious!

The issue of Big Boss's sexuality isn't half as important as everyone's making it seem, sans anything I haven't seen in Ground Zeroes. It's all humor and non-canon, that for some reason is being over-analyzed as an element of Kojima's storytelling. 'Not that there's anything wrong with it being canon.'

edited 17th Jun '14 10:38:52 AM by FOFD

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OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#1130: Jun 17th 2014 at 1:43:53 PM

[up][up]It would be, infact, part of the very definition!

We don't know a lot about Big Boss' childhood, but chances are he had a pretty fucked up childhood. The way he talks to EVA, he doesn't seem to think of sex anymore than anything else. If anything, I'd say he's asexual, except he clearly enjoys the act and understands it's purpose in relationships (he fucks EVA, Kaz, and Paz, all important allies). He probably just does it with whoever's on his side and wants to.

nyo ho ho
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1131: Jun 18th 2014 at 5:42:56 AM

Big Boss: "The nightmares? They never go away, Snake. Once you've been on the battlefield, tasted the exhilaration, the tension... it all becomes part of you. Once you've awakened the warrior within... it never sleeps again. You crave ever bigger tensions, ever bigger thrills. As a mercenary, I'd think you would have realized that by now. You care nothing for power, or money, or even sex. The only thing that satisfies your cravings is war! All I've done is give you a place for it. I've given you a reason to live."

In other news, hacking Peace Walker reveals that it's haunted.

edited 18th Jun '14 5:44:10 AM by unnoun

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#1132: Jun 18th 2014 at 6:57:08 AM

So, are we sure Eli and that masked ginger kid are Liquid and Psycho Mantis, or is Kojima going to troll us?

Because I already made this sweet ass Avatar and I don't want to be dissapointed.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1133: Jun 18th 2014 at 6:59:30 AM

I love that Kojima has apparently recruited ghosts to serve as an anti-hacking feature.

Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#1134: Jun 18th 2014 at 7:06:02 AM

Hopefully the ghosts have better spelling in The Phantom Pain.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1135: Jun 18th 2014 at 9:36:55 AM

I hope that all the songs from the trailers are available in The Phantom Pain from the start.

I am not tech-savvy enough to upload music things to my console.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#1136: Jun 18th 2014 at 9:39:38 AM

I still haven't figured out how to do it in Ground Zeroes

Oh really when?
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#1137: Jun 18th 2014 at 9:41:23 AM

All of Dark Souls 1, 2 and Demon's Souls soundtrack showed up for use for me since I had them on my PS 3.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1138: Jun 18th 2014 at 9:43:43 AM

I wish that my Metal Gear Solid 4 save file counted. Got a lot of tracks for the I Pod. Even downloaded some from the thingy.

OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#1139: Jun 19th 2014 at 8:44:05 AM

guys. Morpho's back.

nyo ho ho
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#1140: Jun 19th 2014 at 10:09:59 AM

But what about the medic? If he died, I am totes headcanoning that either his or Ishamel's ashes were the ones Big Boss rubbed on his face, 9 years be damned.

Wait a sec... the medic jumped in front of Big Boss to protect him from the explosion. Until it is officially jossed, wild mass guessthe medic is Ishmael.wild mass guess They even have the same VA for crying out loud!

edited 19th Jun '14 10:11:31 AM by TheAirman

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#1141: Jun 19th 2014 at 10:26:07 AM

I gotta say, I love literally everything I saw in that gameplay video.

Oh really when?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1142: Jun 19th 2014 at 12:13:04 PM

Needs more Deadly Poisonous Zanzibar Hamsters.

SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#1143: Jun 19th 2014 at 6:50:18 PM

[up][up][up]It could also be the ashes of all the dead soldiers, mixed into one jar, or just some random dude whom Big Boss decided to use as an example of what to expect in the future for his men. Or maybe it's Paz, but that's kinda doubtful since she was blown into tiny little pieces and all that.

OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#1144: Jun 19th 2014 at 6:53:40 PM

It's actually the ashes of his old cigars. He wanted to feel the tobacco one last time before switching to electronic.

nyo ho ho
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#1145: Jun 19th 2014 at 6:57:00 PM

Did anyone else catch the description of his cigar?

Filled with a medicinal herb that alters one's perception of time.

Oh really when?
OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#1146: Jun 19th 2014 at 7:03:05 PM

Hey do you see that horn? It's medicinal! Big Boss totally has a prescription for it! It's just in his other box.

nyo ho ho
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#1147: Jun 19th 2014 at 7:19:12 PM

I kinda wonder how that horn comes out. I mean, it's not there in the MSX 2 games. Or MGS 4.

Also issues with brain injury to the frontal lobe.

EDIT: Checked out the video, the demo starts at about 41:15 for the curious and OHMIGODITSAMAZING!

edited 19th Jun '14 7:45:57 PM by unnoun

SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#1148: Jun 19th 2014 at 8:11:20 PM

[up]that might be the exact reason why they won't pull it out: they'd risk further brain damage if they did and decided on leaving it there... Until somebody skilled enough comes along to remove it.

BTW, that article you linked mentioned that the brain's emotional centers mostly lie within the frontal lobe. Might not be far-fetched to say that either the existence or removal of the shrapnel ends up being part of the reason why BB starts going bonkers in the first two Metal Gear games.

edited 19th Jun '14 8:17:39 PM by SgtRicko

OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#1149: Jun 19th 2014 at 9:05:42 PM

they could just cut off the part that's sticking out and leave the rest there, kinda like how some soldiers still have bullets in them.

nyo ho ho
Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#1150: Jun 20th 2014 at 12:36:43 AM

After the Japanese version of Peace Walker's ridiculous amount of product placement, I'm interested to see if Phantom Pain will incorporate anything similar.

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