What do you think about school uniforms?

I could only afford one uniform shirt in high school because they were so expensive. It got so bad that the school administration gave me a new shirt to wear to the regional science fair so I didn't make the school look bad.

It was very easy to find shit where I was thankfully. A lot of the elementary and middle schools had made the switch to uniforms to deal with issues the schools had with discipline. Got rid of lockers at my school for similar reasons.

Wait, why would you get rid of lockers? That's where you keep your stuff.

How do uniforms promote discipline? If anything being forced to commit such an atrocity against fashion would make me more likely to act out.

People used to stick drugs and weapons in them apparently. Many classes had enough books to keep a class set. Either a full one or a partial one that could be shared with all the students in the class. Those that didn't would often let you leave the books either at home or in class most of the time. Those that didn't you had to carry them to and fro in your backpack.

^Was related to cliques and general asshattery. That and it became easier to locate people who snuck onto our campus to cause shit. That happened a lot before apparently.

edited 7th Apr '11 8:16:04 PM by Aondeug

Drugs 'n weapons? Pfft, they're gonna end up on campus no matter what you do.

I know. That's the school's reason and I personally didn't care enough to question it.

My school tells students not to bring mobile phones, music players or large sums of money onto the grounds. Most of us bring them anyway (mostly the phones and music players, not so much the money) and the teachers just don't seem to care.

edited 7th Apr '11 8:22:38 PM by FuschlatzOReilly

To combat against unwanted people in our schools and kids who aren't students, we have ID badges. We had to wear them until 9th grade, and now we just keep them on our person.

edited 7th Apr '11 8:21:05 PM by Bellacide

What Fusch said. Hell, I can wear anything and no one notices.

ID badges might be fun to have...I would get to feel fancy and important...oooooh.

Not as nice as a uniform though.

They were a hassle and caused many unnecessary write ups due to dress code violations. They help with quick security checks with school stuff, though. Like getting info on events and receiving personalized important stuff.

edited 7th Apr '11 8:26:11 PM by Bellacide

We didn't have dress code violations very often. I only remember a few and they were for the sweatshirt rule. That was rarely if ever reported. Kids knew which classes to hide their sweatshirts in for the most part. There were very few of those as the staff didn't give a shit about that as well. Or the tucked in shirt rule.

We also had ID cards for things like checking shit out though we didn't have to wear them as a badge. They hadn't yet applied that to the lunch program so people would trade their free lunch tickets for things. That or just give them away.

edited 7th Apr '11 8:30:52 PM by Aondeug

Sweatshirts? It'd be neigh impossible to hide my trench coat...

Nobody wore trench coats at our school to my knowledge. Jackets and coats weren't part of the rule regarding sweatshirts and no one ever got in trouble for those.

On the topic of expressing one's personality with clothing:

The vast majority of people cycle between the same three or four outfits a week. Exactly how many times a week did you, Supporter of Individual Expression, wake up and think something deeper than, "I think I'll wear this today because it's comfortable/my favorite color/faster to put on because I woke up late/the only clean thing I have because I forgot to do laundry this week"?

On the topic of discipline via uniforms:

The vast majority of students wear them in a manner that isn't regulation standard, unless they are 1) naturally prim and proper or 2) being inspected. Loose ties, rolled up sleeves, rolled up skirts, loose/slouched socks, various accessories, pins on backpack, etc. My mother did this, and so did everyone she knew in high-school/college "except for the really proper ones". The margin of expression is smaller, but not completely gone.

Yeah we had little rules like that regarding how we were supposed to be wearing shit. We had rules against things like jewelry and badges that those who wanted to wear it didn't listen to. Staff generally didn't care too much about most such things. There was still a small bit of expression that one could get away with. A friend of mine wore cat ears to school often.

edited 7th Apr '11 8:58:30 PM by Aondeug

It's always struck me that "remove conflict by removing whatever people fight about" is an excellent way to destroy humanity. That's why I think uniforms are bullshit.

On the other hand, taking the "uniforms are bullshit" opinion way, WAY too seriously is what ultimately destroys the protagonist of my next writing project...

I wore the same uniform for 11 years and it's not the worst thing in the world, plus when you're gay and in an all-boys school, once you reach an age where the trousers start to get smaller, well you can see where I'm going with this.

I have something of a school uniform fetish too, but it pretty much only applies to Japanese uniforms. If I have any reason to think wearing a school uniform is a good idea, sex appeal isn't it...

edited 8th Apr '11 3:53:36 AM by FuschlatzOReilly

"...You're joking, right?"

No; explain to me why I would be.

Oh Japanese uniforms can be lovely things. Especially gakuran...Oh gakuran...So fucking nice looking...Girls in particular look fantastic in them!

An example for those who may want or need one.◊

edited 9th Apr '11 1:27:25 PM by Aondeug

SAILOR FUKU FOKK YESH

I don't much care for gakuran. I'd prefer for male and female school uniforms to match each other more closely.