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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
#1: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:37:09 PM

I've seen this a few times, where someone lists an event on a works page as The Un-Twist when they really seem to mean Wall Banger or Ass Pull. Just something to keep an eye out for.

MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#2: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:38:52 PM

Any examples on a works page need to be removed and put in the YMMV tab. If they're in the YMMV tab, it isn't misuse because that's pretty much what the YMMV tab is for.

"Thorough preparation must lead to success. Neglect nothing."
MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
#3: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:45:33 PM

A YMMV still has to fit the definition of the trope, and in this case, the definition of the trope is "A twist we all saw coming." I'm saying it's being used to say, "A twist I didn't like," or "A twist that was an Ass Pull".

Take for example the one I pulled off of Ctrl+Alt+Del. Back when the storyline happened, everyone was calling it an Ass Pull because it wasn't foreshadowed and the type of phone didn't exist at the time the storyline started. There was no set-up, so you couldn't have seen it coming, so it doesn't fit the trope. It was only on the page because someone tried to use it to slip in, "I thought this plot twist sucked."

edited 21st Mar '11 12:47:41 PM by MrDeath

MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#4: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:49:28 PM

As the description for The Un-Twist says:

Any plot development can become The Untwist to a sufficiently paranoid reader.
What you think isn't an Untwist likely is for someone else. That's why it's YMMV. Just because you think it's an example of "A twist I didn't like" or "A twist that was an Ass Pull" doesn't mean the person that added it thought that way. If the justification that's given says otherwise, then remove it. If there is no justification, assume it's valid.

"Thorough preparation must lead to success. Neglect nothing."
MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
#5: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:52:55 PM

YMMV or not, it still has to fit the definition by some standard. Subjective does not mean "anything goes, don't question it."

The Un-Twist has a definition. All the tropes, even the YMMV's, do. Assuming it's valid if there's no explanation is the opposite of what we're supposed to be doing here. I recall seeing other trope listings taken off of pages specifically because they weren't explained.

Some people are using the trope as a weasel word, and using examples that plainly don't fit the definition. That's a problem that should be addressed.

SNDL Since: Mar, 2011
#6: Apr 24th 2011 at 3:59:37 PM

Deleting the article will not hep by any means. Just try to leave this to YMMV tabs of work pages.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#7: Apr 24th 2011 at 5:52:40 PM

You should do a wicks check, to make sure it's not too widespread.

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