What is your ideal society?

: Rapid succesion in the name of the political state after the glorious leaders death?
Actually a quite good idea.

A guy called dvorak is tired. Tired of humanity not wanting to change to improve itself. Quite the sad tale.

Me? Honestly I kind of want to be the leader of a Mad Max-style raider warband, and have my very own raider chick wife like Viper from Doomsday.

And said warband will roam the wastes, shooting, burning, and looting. But not raping; I'd have strict rules against that and any violators will be shot.

Like the Khans on Fallout? It's actually a pretty cool life.

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

Hmmm... I think I'd make a society that would fulfill these three requirements:

1. Every adult citizen has exactly the same rights, subject only to what a particular person is or is not capable of doing.

2. Pre-secondary education is mandatory, free, and public education shall be paid for by the national government on a per-child basis. College/University education at a public institution shall be free to any student who maintains at least a B- average.

3. There shall be a central job placement agency where any adult shall be assured of acquiring work. Any business may freely register a job opening there, but there is no requirement to use this central placement agency. There shall be no penalty should a business dismiss a candidate if they find him or her unable to adequately fulfill his or her job functions, but the business must pay the candidate for any time worked.

edited 28th Mar '11 9:26:12 AM by TheGirlWithPointyEars

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Is there a plan to catch rank inflation?

Da Rules excuse all the inaccuracy in the world. Listen to them, not me.

Hash it out in the details Let accreditation deal with it, maybe?

edited 28th Mar '11 9:44:43 AM by TheGirlWithPointyEars

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I crave for order, yet I value freedom. Call me unoriginal for liking societies that make a better job of compromising security with free will.

A single phrase renders Christianity a delusional cult.

@Islamic Caliphate... I used to think it was such a good idea... Now I think it's not the worst system by far, especially if played right, but... some serious religious repression against extremism would need to be used... an Islamic Counterreform...

edited 28th Mar '11 12:11:02 PM by Ardiente

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."

Well to be fair, The Princess And The Frog is slightly more compelling from a narrative standpoint than The Congressman and the 73-Hour Filibuster.

Unless the latter filibuster is a dramatic reading of the former story.

edited 28th Mar '11 12:17:44 PM by Pykrete

Exactly. Monarchist narratives are intrinsically more compelling than democratic ones.

If human imagination has a purpose rather than being a product of random chance (i.e., if God exists), this points to something important.

“Love is the eternal law whereby the universe was created and is ruled.” — St. Bernard

Doesn't mean they are any better though, just means there are fewer characters.

And since we are judging for narritive strength in terms of what we want to have as our leaders why not just elect a conclave of authors?

As a final thing that is so much appeal to tradition that I have just burst a blood vessel, thanks.

Yeah it's more that stories focused on democracy are just more technically difficult to keep from drowning in Loads And Loads Of Characters. Even royals have to go through bureaucratic bullshit.

A constitutional monarchy is the best of both democracy and monarchism. I would want any ideal society to be a constitutional monarchy.

Some of the most free countries are constitutional monarchies Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Japan, New Zealand, Canada & Australia to name a few.

edited 28th Mar '11 12:52:05 PM by izumoshep

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"

Yes but they are also democracies, just because they HAVE a royal family doesn't mean that the royals have any say.

@Rott: Intrinsically? Bullshit. Go watch The West Wing or {{24}} or Battlestar Galactica or Legend Of Galactic Heroes and come back and tell me democracy, that massive Thirty Xanatos Pileup, is dull. Classic Greek Tragedies consisting of stupid royals doing stupid shit to each other in an Idiot Plot, that is dull.

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."

I must admit Yes Minister is a good deal more entertaining than Oedipus.

Oh, I forgot that show. But Rott will tell you it is a Monarchy, technically.

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."

If the queen does anything but advise the PM once in a blue moon she will end up out on her ear.

Out on her ear?

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."

Thrown out of office.

You can fire the queen!?

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."

No, you can't fire the Queen.

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"

No, but she can be "removed from office" if she attempted to have anymore than a purely symbolic role.

Ofc there would be upset, but the royal family would probably just declare her insane but her somewhere warm and out of the way of the press and let Charles have a go.

Parliament is sovereign. Probably they could abolish the monarchy with an Act.

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

The British Parliament cannot remove the Queen by themselves, they need the approval of all other countries who also have Queen Elizabeth II as their monarch. She is the Queen of Canada, Australia etc, not just the UK.

edited 28th Mar '11 4:42:48 PM by izumoshep

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"