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DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#676: Sep 20th 2012 at 5:58:24 PM

Shall tell I you tell his first appearance in the manga?

edited 20th Sep '12 5:58:36 PM by DavidtheMouse14

DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#678: Sep 21st 2012 at 7:20:49 PM

Believe it or not, Basque Grand never appeared in the present of the Manga, he was killed by Scar but it was off screen, his only appeareance in the chapters was in the Ishval flashback arc.

edited 22nd Sep '12 1:27:40 PM by DavidtheMouse14

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#680: Sep 26th 2012 at 7:33:44 PM

Interesting. So, in essence, he was a blank slate that each version ran with in different directions.

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arahman56 Since: Aug, 2010
#681: Sep 27th 2012 at 5:16:16 AM

[up][up][up]Even more insultingly, in an Omake, it's said that Scar just sneaked up on him when he was carrying groceries home.

DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#682: Sep 27th 2012 at 10:34:28 AM

[up][up] Well sorta of, he's shown in the Manga to be quite hammy and noble, in which when the Ishval leader and his follower said they wanted to speak to Bradley, they sacrifice there lives for the sake of saving Ishval, the corrupted general order them to be killed yelling at everyone to murder them, Basque Grand kills said general, takes over and allowed them to speak with Bradley. (More badass then it's sound sadly Brotherhood omitted it.)

[up] Funny I heard he got drunk after a party, and walk right into Scar's hand.

DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#683: Sep 30th 2012 at 11:14:52 AM

Well guys, I finish the Manga for the first time, and it's was awesome and beautiful, man I feel so empty, yet touch by the ending...

I plan on watching 2003 and Brotherhood afterwards, but I just feel so empty...

edited 30th Sep '12 11:15:41 AM by DavidtheMouse14

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#684: Oct 1st 2012 at 7:17:28 AM

[up]Welcome to the club mate.

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DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#685: Oct 1st 2012 at 12:28:29 PM

I should mention that I've seen all of 2003 and Brotherhood, three times.

I just never read the entire Manga before.

edited 1st Oct '12 12:37:33 PM by DavidtheMouse14

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#686: Oct 2nd 2012 at 4:44:16 AM

If I had to pick one flaw from Brotherhood, is that it lacks some of the substance of the manga.

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DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#687: Oct 3rd 2012 at 12:35:10 AM

Happy Full Metal Alchemist Day everybody!!![awesome][awesome]

gringringrin

edited 3rd Oct '12 12:36:52 AM by DavidtheMouse14

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#688: Oct 3rd 2012 at 12:34:57 PM

I don't know why but I seem to despise Brotherhood!Edward than 2003!Edward.....

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#689: Oct 3rd 2012 at 1:04:32 PM

Brotherhood Ed's character arc felt... interrupted by the plot of Brotherhood. While Ed got fleshed out via the events in the 2003 anime, the Brotherhood version's development seemed to stop somewhere in the middle of the story. He was just really uninteresting.

@david: ...not exactly a day to be happy about or celebrate, really

DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#690: Oct 3rd 2012 at 1:43:55 PM

[up] It's the day where the Elric brothers adventures begin, and there main drive throughout the series, why not celebrate?

As far as the Edwards goes I disagree, I the prefer the awesome and badass Edward in Brotherhood a lot more compared to how sad and mopey he was in 2003.

edited 3rd Oct '12 2:47:47 PM by DavidtheMouse14

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#691: Oct 3rd 2012 at 2:34:38 PM

I prefer realistic and angst rather than boringawesome. In fact, I always prefer actual emotion over typical character traits.

Anyways, it's a sad day because I can guarantee you that the Elrics wouldn't be celebrating it. What, with them having to leave their hometown behind, with the weight of their mother's death and their failure in bringing her back on their shoulders, plus the baggage of missing limbs and whatnot.

Their main drive throughout the series was empowered by a tragedy.

edited 3rd Oct '12 2:35:09 PM by cutewithoutthe

DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#692: Oct 3rd 2012 at 2:55:51 PM

The word realistic is rather lose you don't normally see a person losing an arm and leg a getting taken away by a gate and bounding there brother's soul in a suit armor. So I don't see how there reaction to that is realistic, seeing as it's not a realistic situation.Also being angst, brooding, and melodramatic are also typical traits because I've seen traits like that a million time, so I see you're clearly playing pedestal.

And as for the FMA Day, we see them go through all that and grow to see what they overcome throughout there journey that's something to celebrate.

So quit ruining my mood in regards to celebrating it, seriously.

edited 3rd Oct '12 3:16:44 PM by DavidtheMouse14

DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#693: Oct 3rd 2012 at 6:46:15 PM

In any case, I finish my FMA Day, ending it with a trailer of 2003, which I'll start this Friday.

Making it my fourth time I'll be watching it.

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DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#695: Oct 4th 2012 at 4:17:10 AM

[up] Ah, didn't you know I'm currently Marathoning through FMA, I finish the Manga last week, it should take me October to finish 2003, and November to finish Brotherhood.

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#696: Oct 4th 2012 at 4:35:46 AM

The word realistic is rather lose you don't normally see a person losing an arm and leg a getting taken away by a gate and bounding there brother's soul in a suit armor. So I don't see how there reaction to that is realistic, seeing as it's not a realistic situation.
There's a difference between situational realism (what you're talking about) and emotional realism or verisimilitude (what he's talking about). In telling a story, the former trumps the latter by definition; a story is good when it feels real. What he's saying is he thought that 2003!Ed felt more real as a character than Brotherhood!Ed, and in the end, that's all that matters.

I've actually heard that complaint a couple of times about Brotherhood. Not the manga, though.

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DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#697: Oct 4th 2012 at 12:28:43 PM

I don't understand how you can say there emotions to something is real, when what there reacting to isn't?

It doesn't make any sense.

edited 4th Oct '12 12:29:46 PM by DavidtheMouse14

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#698: Oct 4th 2012 at 11:32:51 PM

It's called verisimilitude, like I said. It's like this: A situation might not be based in reality, but how the characters react to that situation should make sense, both in context and for their character. Not having this breaks the Willing Suspension of Disbelief, making it more difficult to enjoy a show.

It's not a matter of a situation itself being realistic, but the way in which the situation is treated. For instance, let's say that in a universe where people can throw fireballs, there is a kind and extremely earnest person with that power. With no explanation, they throw a fireball at a helpless child and laugh while they burn to death. Does this make sense? No, because the character isn't that kind of person. The fire-throwing makes sense because it's established in-universe; the wanton cruelty from an ostensibly kind character doesn't.

That is the difference between realism and verisimilitude. A situation doesn't have to operate on the mechanics of this reality to be believable as a story; it just has to have characters that behave like real people would in those situations.

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DavidtheMouse14 Just A Humble Sonic Fan Since: Dec, 1969
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#699: Oct 5th 2012 at 12:03:50 AM

Still something I don't comprehend but eh.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#700: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:53:12 AM

It's not really that complicated. Fullmetal Alchemist is unrealistic in its portrayal of physics and chemistry, but is realistic in its portrayal of human psychology. The basic premise that alchemy exists and souls can be manipulated is very far-fetched, but characters' reactions to living in such a world make sense.


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