Help! My heroine refuses to go lesbian for her friends!

OK, so like there's this girl with whom my two lesbian characters really want to get into their bed but she's already got this boyfriend you see and she's about as straight as an arrow. So while this is definitely not the central plot, it does help create a conjoining arc that helps drive the main story. But dang are these girls persistent. So, any advice you folks can give to these poor girls would definitely be appreciated. Thanks!

Why exactly is it plot relevant for her to have to bang her female friends?

It's part of a Thirty Xanatos Pileup that culminates in everyone trying to gain control over the heroine's dark powers.

Can you please tell me the mechanics of why she needs to fuck her friends for the plot to work instead of just tossing out tropes?

They're the ones who want to get her into their bed. It is not connected to other factions' plans for the girl but since nearly every plan goes off at pretty much the same time, the fact that the heroine finally decides to stay a night at her friends' place prevents her from showing up in time for numerous other plots to go off.

Okay, I have some tips for your lovlies:

• Get the straight girl hammered
• Have the pair act very playful, maybe even silly - it can make it fun for her, and they can start removing her clothes/steering her to their bed
• Have there be only one bed, and invite the heroine over for the night. Simple - guest can't sleep on the presumably stone floor, and neither can the hostesses
• Take the heroine to see something erotic, or at least bawdy - hell, Judy (or is it Jude?) and Punch will do, as long as they keep talking about sex - her lust will start kicking up eventually, and if she's with friends she already likes, one thing can lead to another
• Make it a mutual game to do semi-naughty things, and keep turning the dial until it hits Eleven
• Just ask her - pose it as an experiment, or tell her it will make [insert male love interest here] wayyyy more attracted to her if he can visualize her making out with other hot women

Those are all I have off the top of my head. Hope they're helpful!

Interesting, this 30 Xanatos Pileup of yours. Lesbians shall win, because we want them to, yes? Haha, I'm kidding. I know it's part of the plot.

It sounds unethical to me. Sexual harassment.

edited 24th Feb '11 10:21:58 PM by LoniJay

If someone actually does want to do something but is too shy, inhibited, and tense to do it, that's one thing; if it's something they don't want to do at all, then it is not a good thing.

Of course, in a story, you can have people doing not-good things — but I'd encourage someone who does that to not pretend that the ethical issues aren't there.

Technically, yes, it is sexual harrassment. And, yes, it's fiction. And it does seem like the less...titillating, shall we say, consequences often get ignored. Hopefully, they won't here. However, since these aren't my characters, I can't really say or do anything other than what's been asked.

Although it would be nice if the heroine acknowledged that their behavior really isn't appropriate - even if it is plot related.

Example: My lesbian noblewoman and her prostitute have snuck out to get a meal. Noblewoman is purposely underdressed so she doesn't arouse suspicion. The noblewoman gets very, very drunk, and starts fooling around with her hired pleasure. The hired pleasure does not take kindly to having a hand groping in her shirt while she's trying to eat, and says so. The noblewoman, being hammered out of her mind, ignores this, and continues her..."teasing." Hands go places they shouldn't in public, and the girl freaks out. This earns her client a smashed-sock gag, a partner who is less than eager to do what she's paid for, and being literally half-dragged, half-carried back to the house of prostitution when she can't seem to control her hands. She wakes up the next morning wondering why her clothes are covered in scuff marks and why her mouth is so dry. And lastly, why her clothes are still on. Discussion Ensues.

How did I know who made this thread? Oh, I know, because this sounds just like another of Sand Josieph's fetishes.

Are you an elit writer, or just very fond of fanservice?

@ Theram: I assume you're asking Sand Josieph? (It's a little hard to tell - sorry for asking what probably seems obvious...)

Hmm, the one bed idea sounds more up my characters' allies. Of course, there's nothing to stop the heroine from sleeping on the sofa.

I'm horribly ill right now so maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem, but if you just need the female character somewhere other than where she's needed for the xanantos pileup, can't she just stay over at the lesbian characters' place? She doesn't have to sleep with them (though maybe it's an attempt by them to get her to do it?), but if she just needs to crash somewhere else after a party or a fight with someone (or even if they're just chilling and watching movies and it turns into a sleepover?) why can't she just sleep on their couch or something? Unless it's vital that sex happens in which case I got nothing.

Sex isn't absolutely necessary, but since it's what these two characters want from the heroine it would be awfully strange for them not to try to make as many moves as possible.

So... The lesbian characters don't like her for any reason other than her body, is that it?

the problem with your idea is this: if the girl doesn't want to sleep with them, she won't no matter how many moves they make. Is this story meant to be serious or funny?

Is this part light hearted? if so, you can break up some of the drama by making the two lesbians set various "sexy ambushes" for their friend. "Woops you walked in on me naked! oh well, let's get naked together!"

"what these? these are just chocolate dipped strawberries, here let me feed them to you. mmmm."

"Oh you are taking a shower and the door was unlocked...sorry, I'll just be a minute....woops, Now I'm in the shower too! Oh well let's soap each other...hey where are you going?"

Maybe even leave the night a failure, with heroine sleeping on the couch. It would be funnier that way.

Sounds like something my characters would try to pull, although they would somehow manage to get SCIENCE! involved.

So do that, but remember that all you need is for this character to be distracted. if she has a boyfriend, think of what it would do to the relationship if she had sex with her lesbian friends.

It just sounds to me like you are trying to make this a fetish fuel scene—try harder to put it within the context of the story.

Like I said before: They're only partially successful as they only get the heroine into their bed for about a minute before weirding her out. But yes, while them getting her into their bed isn't part of the plot driven story, the story is also taking into account the character driven aspects as well.

redacted, then.

edited 25th Feb '11 5:33:45 PM by NickTheSwing

Nick, that's beginning to edge into personal attack territory.

@Cygan: Unsurprising, little sister.

oh alright, I redact my statement.

Aww, and I didn't even get to see his original post. If it had anything contructive, or even a suggestion, I would have been glad to read it.