Rap Culture

I've had mixed feelings about rap music for quite a while, until recently when I really started liking some old stuff I've heard.

So does anyone really know what the rap scene and by extension th people who are a part of it actually are? The media usually portrays these kind of people badly.

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.

rap scenes.

Plural.

It's not really one thing. Most of the negative stereotypes come from the Gangsta/Hardcore scene, which I am not involved in and don't really want to be.

Other scenes, New York's Underground in particular, are more about skill at music making and authenticity than anything else.

It depends on where you go.

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First off, ಠ_ಠ at the snowclone title.

Second, Portland's hip-hop scene is moribund, and that makes me sad.

I read that as "is morbid"... hip-hop would be way more interesting if crossed with death metal.

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I've been told by people who are really into music that the type of Rap I describe hating is "glam" rap. Meaning all the shit about money and bitches and hoes.

Then again I'm not really a fan of gangsta rap either, what with being a cop and all.

Aaaand all the stories about how it's ok to cheat on people and "COME ON GURL GIMME ANOTHER CHANCE!" bullshit.

So yeah, my categories of rap that I like are rather limited, but do exist.

Yeah, can't dislike the Wu Tang Clan.

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You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!

Old genre is old, it's not like there's a unified rock scene.

@Rottweiler [1], personally I can't stand RATM

edited 16th Feb '11 4:54:24 PM by Tzetze

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Rap fans are not much different than rock fans- from what I've seen, a lot of them tend to only consider the "golden age" (mid 1980s-early 1990s) or people who imitate its sound to be of any worth.

Says the guy with a Wu-Tang reference in his signature.

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I honestly thought this thread said "Rape Culture" and I was going to come in here talking about the debacle with Penny Arcade.

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RATM are in no way death metal. They're more funk metal. I can't actually think of any rap death metal bands off the top of my head.

But anyway, rap is basically a singing style, so it's much too broad to have an associated culture. The stereotypical hip-hop subculture only represents a fraction of hip-hop listeners nowadays.

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@OP You should probably look into your local scene if you haven't already. A lot of rappers and such from Toronto- and Canada in general  ^*

- are often heavily influenced by golden age styles, as well as being generally inventive and fun.

Edit: did I mention that- as far as I know- none of that lot have been portrayed badly by the media? Especially not the Poet Laureate or Brinkman, who have both used rap as an effective instrument of education in schools and communities. Hard to bag them in the same scene as say, Insane Clown Posse, then.

edited 19th Feb '11 4:16:11 AM by yukijin

...is out to lunch.

I think a few people have hit the nail on the head by explaining that there are many rap sub-cultures and so it is difficult to discuss without breaking it down.

Also you don't have to be involved in the culture to like the music, many of my friends who shared my love for rap circa late 80s & early 90s were mostly into Rock, one even Heavy Metal.

I think that today's chart rap culture is preposterous and possibly the most associated type with the genre due to the highly publicised behaviours of the Rapper role models that accompany it. Well, Fiddy, go die in a sea of fire. I've seen what their followers are like and in England we used to refer to them as "Yardies" or "Chavs". Especially the white kids going around pretending they're black. Bitch please.

I think today's rappers just find something, anything that rhymes with their previous lurid statement and role with it. I give this one to Stewie Griffin. And if that's the kind of rubbish that's influencing teenagers, I wonder what the hell kind of a culture it spawned.

edited 18th Feb '11 6:01:35 AM by LadyJustice

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