Damn. I'm going to save the list and at least add a sentence in the main description of the more problematic tropes (if they don't already). Truce?
edited 24th Jul '11 10:03:53 PM by MegaJ
Those sentences tend to be useless digressions and really belong on the analysis page since most of the time they're people reading things into the trope that aren't intended.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
sick of it all
Can we begin a new Bigotry Tropes index? Because seriously, we do need to address bigotry.
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No, because it's going to end up with something like All Trolls Are Different on it because of Fantastic Racism. No matter how many times you do this, it's just going to end up a list of pet peeves tropes that offend someone for no reason.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
With Bigotry Tropes, we can definitely eliminate a lot of the hold-my-head-sideways-and-see-this-as-offensive tropes.
That's what you said last time.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
sick of it all
To be honest I personally find the removal of this index rather pointless and disheartening, because I think it's one of the ways TV Tropes Will Enhance Your Life.
I wonder how many others who don't read the forums on average think like that? Because to be honest, I think we should have tried for a better compromise instead of "cut this," maybe something like rewording the intro better? Besides, these tropes are not listed for being Pet Peeve Tropes, they are listed because someone out there takes them as offensive AND that doesn't mean they're bad or shouldn't be used (maybe your audience won't be offended or maybe you have a reason to use them etcetera) but their being here was meant not to call them out, but merely to list them as things that could derail your work and that someone might have a problem with. More like a "beware, here there be dragons" sign than a "DON'T USE THESE OR ELSE!!!" thing.
edited 25th Jul '11 3:41:27 AM by AGroupie
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I see the Awesomeness.
If it's a general "don't be a fuck up" index, I don't see the point of it.
Fight smart, not fair.
sick of it all
Point being, it lists things on which one can be a fuckup and, ideally, would list ways to NOT be so. That said I think if I could get approval I'd like to move this to each individual page... sort of like "playing with a trope"
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Except you can do EVERY trope horribly wrong in a way that will offend someone. And this isn't even useful as a list for what you want, because it doesn't tell you a thing about how to not fuck up other than never write anything ever. Any minority character will offend someone. So will a lack of minorities, and even a lack of humans. Everyone has to be straight to avoid upsetting the fundies. If you don't have any gays you upset LBGT people. There is no right way.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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What to do with this index.
It's been up a full week, and while I don't know if it's stabilized, barring a ballot-box-stuffing campaign, it isn't going to turn around.
Calling it and locking the crowner.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.